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High 2-A Four Devas and Loki SMT

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So, a small thing I noticed from my time with a few SMT games.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0JNo0aUZTLw#fauxfullscree (Look at the 3:35 mark)

In this mission from our good old friend Stephen back in SMT IV, Stephen explains the nature of the expanse/Diamond Realm/Demon World. Basically, it transcends the past, present, and future, and through it one can easily be sent throughout time and space.

Now, why is this important? Basically, there are 4 demons of note, namely, the 4 devas, who in at least one reality hold back the demon real from fusing with reality.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=27Y5FGwn83M&list=PLOdDlDt7wGxepOCHDFBP3t--spd0uy7pT&index=55# (41:07 mark)

Loki is capable of fighting the protagonist after they kill 3 of the Devas, and is their killer in the manga, which warrants a High 2-A rating
 
Pretty sure that the Devas holding off the Expanse from merging with the physical Multiverse isn't a High 2-A feat. It just exists beyond the linear flow of time of the the Multiverse

The Devas' feat is 2-A
 
Actually, the transcendence mentioned here is pretty clearly high 2-A considering that traveling through it mimics immeasurable speed, whic the bare minimum tier to gain it naturally is 5-D. If it just existed outside of normal space-time, it wouldn't work that way, as well as the kanji (ÚÜÄ) being used in the original indicating trancendence of planes rather than parallel worlds.
 
DMB 1 said:
Is the manga even canon.

Also, while I'm definitely not very knowledgeable about the verse, it could very well be an Inconsistency.
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I mean...
We use manga feats for Pokémon, and it's not like Loki's appearances have any canon even between games.
 
I don't think it's really a inconsistency. The Devas are pretty low tier demons most of the time.
 
Everyone 2-A would scale to the Devas. Considering they are like... The weakest 2-As in SMT by now
 
I don't think the Expanse really qualifies as a High 2-A plane. A higher plane of existence than a Multiverse has never been treated as such in the wiki, otherwise we would have had High 2-A Madoka a long time ago.

Nevermind that travel through Time and Space is just an accurate showing of what a place beyond Time would allow
 
A higher plane of existence above a multiverse has pretty much always been High 2-A from what I hear.

I know for a fact it was a good part of the reasoning for the MtG Eldrazi profiles here.
 
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