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Zero division Regenerationn and immortality upgrade

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I think Ichibe should have type 8 immortality and type 4 via this statement from the novel.

"Where are you going, high priest?"

"To wake up the zero division a little"

The zero division.

The Royal Guards are elite guardians with five members, including the high priest Ichibē, who are said to be comparable to the entire force of the Gotei 13.

Each member is a pioneer who has created things such as Zanpakutō or shihakushou, that can be described as the very foundations of the present day Shinigami, perhaps it could be said that these great men and women thoroughly refined the history of the Shinigami, from zero.

However, up until Kyōraku had arrived here, he had heard that the zero division, excluding the high priest, had died at the hands of Yhwach and his subordinates.

Kyōraku inclined his head at the words "wake up", but the answer soon came spilling out from the high priest's mouth.

"It's not the case that my own flesh and flood was converted into the Ōken just for show you know? The spiritual pulse that surrounds the Zero Riden* which everyone was given, is almost fused with the individual spiritual pressures of squad zero. As long as the Zero Riden are not completely destroyed, they will be revived if I call their names"

The Zero Riden is the respecitve palaces or cities that they live in,and type 4 immortality because they were given this immortality by the soul king,a godlike being in the Bleachverse.

As for the upgrade in regen although i'm not sure I think Ichibe should have low-godly regen,because he was killed by Yhwach but was able to reform a new body using some of Ichigo's power,via talking to him with telepathy while he was dead.

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Seems pretty cut clear to me. Wouldn't type 4 and 8 apply to the rest of the Royal Guards?
 
Type 8 and 4 yeah since they all have the same type of immortality and source.
 
it depends on how he was destroyed. You can still lose your whole body but come back with high regen
 
He was blown to bits via feats,but via Statements they can regen as long as their spiritual pressure exist in the world.

As we can see in the scan at least how I see it his body was destroyed,but his mind was still there when he called out to Ichigo.

Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of your body, instead restoring it from your disembodied consciousness, whether that be your soul, mind, or something else.
 
was his body completely destroyed tho thats what we need to know. If he was blown to bits then he only needs High Mid regen to come back to life
 
I think you missed the point. Ichibei was dead, only his disembodied thought was left. And he used it to come back, hence why it's possibly low Godly.
 
I see the whole point, this is only High Mid regen since he was blown to bits. Not Low godly, it may seem like low godly because as long as someone says his name he can come back. He relies on two things, his mind and his name. If someone destroys his mind he has no way at telling a friend to say his name, like the example with Ichigo.


THis is pretty downright simple. He has shown High Mid regen from coming back from pieces and type 8 immortaility. It is not low godly and doesnt have any possiblity at it being that when he still has his body around scattered in pieces.
 
He made a new body from Ichigo's energy Astral.

You literally just said it's low godly,he regenerated from ichigo's energy as a disembodied conciousness via his mind.

instead restoring it from your disembodied consciousness, whether that be your soul, mind, or something else.
 
he used his mind to tell Ichigo to say his name. He didnt regen from his mind, thats something totally different which implies that he shouldnt even need someone to say his name to always come back.

Lol also you guys may say he made a new body but nowhere in his statements does he say he literally made a new body, he himself said he restored his body. We all know what restore means i take it. This means he used his old blown to bits body to regenerate from using the energy from Ichigo. This is only High Mid regen not Low godly and even if we did say he didnt have a body it would be considered HIgh regen but im just saying that tho.
 
Ichibei shouldn't have Low Godly, it's Type 8. He stole a portion of his power off Ichigo, which he uses to reform his own body.
 
Yeah I understand that but the thing is he was dead,but his mind was still there.
 
Type 8 is a kind of regen, he can be Every regen, in this case, it's type 8 based on Low godly but non applicable in fight
 
Because it's not Type 4. It's Type 8.

"As long as the Zero Riden are not completely destroyed, they will be revived if I call their names"

This is textbook Type 8. "I remain as long as Someone / Someone remains"
 
I'm not sure if you read the post in full, type 4 is suggested because the Soul King gave them their power and immortality.Not the Zero Riden which is proof for type 8.
 
What???

Immortality via godhood, or protection from a deity: A character that was either granted immortality by a god, or is immortal because of its hierarchical position due to godhood, so that its divine immortality is less a power, and more treated as a consequence of its state of being as a deity.
 
Don't think it has a use most of the time,in this scenario it doesn't.
 
Most of the type 4s i seen with immortality via godhood cant die at all literally not even being able to take damage. One example a girl from UQ Holder
 
The "Protection from a Deity" aspect of Type 4 always seemed stupid to me. It's redundant when it can be encompassed in Type 8 already.
 
but Ichibe obviously took damage thats why its not so believeable for him to have type 4 when he gets his body blown to pieces
 
Astral type 4 has 2 different parts.. protection from a deity like you stated and immortality granted by a god lol.
 
How is it the same if one part implies your protected by a divine being and the other part implies you recieved immortality from a divine being.
 
Protected by a god and thus being rendered immortal and being straight up being given immortality by a god is the same thing.
 
That part of Type 4 is indeed pretty redundant as being protected by a deity basically says your immortality is reliant on that deity.

You really just have 2 solid evidences of Type 8.
 
It's not really "reliant" as the deity could just chose to not give their protection anymore, while Type 8 is permanent.
 
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