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Regarding Melting and Vaporizing things

Dragonmasterxyz

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We seem to have run into issue with the values that have come up within this blog

More specifically the Melting Skyscrapers section. One the thread I linked, I asked what tier would vaporizing a skyscraper be. The answer I got was 6.9160041e+15 or Low 7-B.

This is pretty striking as according to the blog, melting your average skyscraper is 7.3133614000828819e17 or 174.793533 MegaTons, i.e Mountain level

From what I know, Vaporization should yield higher results than melting correct? So, something is off here. This could affect calcs such as this.
 
I mean, this still shows the vaporization as having over 100 times as much energy as the melting, unless the disparity is normally greater than that.
 
You read it wrong the blog has 7-A for melting and Low 7-B is the value of vaporizing a skyscraper which shouldnt be possible considering vaporization should logically take more energy than melting
 
Nevermind, misread it. Whoever told you that may have had a different size in mind for the skyscraper, or just been wrong. Idk.
 
Yeah, I agree that this might seem problematic. Pretty sure the melting feat used different values and both calc's assumed different elements regardless. We could look into this.
 
Apologies if this commentary of mine is too non-contributing, but I'd say I'm pretty interested in the conclusions of this thread, since I just did a calc involving melting. I'm no Calc Group member, but seeing as this highlighted, if the values for melting, vaporization, etc. changing might be good ot know about.

Does this concern feats about melting any material? AFAIK, the energy for melting ice is 333 or 333.55 joules per gram, if that matters.
 
Probably because the melting feat uses a very different method.

Vaporization refers to energy off any kind; outputting so much energy that it destroys the object on a level that separates all of the molecules one by one.

Melting refers specifically to changing the temperature throughout the entire object to such an extent that it melts.

Also, if you raise the temperature that much, I guarantee you that some of it is going to get vaporized. Just imagine heating up water; at some point the water starts to evaporate, but of course it's not going to evaporate all at once. If you melt a skyscraper, at some point there's going to be little bits of it evaporating, so perhaps that's why?

I'm no physics expert, so I'm not sure. I just know all the formulas and how to implement them.
 
@Arbitrary

No, that's not right. Vaporization is change from solid/liquid phase to gas phase. It has nothing to do with "energy of any kind". It involves heating something up, but on a considerably higher scale.
 
Literal definition of vaporization is heating an object until it becomes a gas; 3rd state of matter. Melting is heating an object till it becomes a liquid. Unlike Pulverization Vs Vaporization, which the first could be blunt force based, the latter is pretty much heat based as is melting.
 
Mol is a unit of volume where as kg is a unit of mass, that's the obvious problem with that. A mole is 6.02214076e23 or 602 sextillion, 214 quintillion, 76 quadrillion particles. Translating that to mass varies from element to element.

>3 Gigajoules is 7-B o_O wut? I think you have joules confused with tons. And as Kep said atomizing a human is 8-C or 3 Gigajoules, vaporizing a human is only 300 Megajoules or 9-A
 
Actually, mol isn't an unit of volume, is one of the 7 independent units according to SI; but yeah, if the calc is confusing mol with kg is a terrible mistake, its need to be corrected.
 
Okay, the part of volume I mentioned was for Titanium. But the number of atoms mentioned with specification was true 6.022140857*10^23 if you want to use scientific notation is the number of atoms. I still like saying it the other method just because I can
 
Is the standard unit to measure amount of subtance, no different to distance's meter or time's second. But that is delaying the thread.
 
dealing with moles is always confusing the in a nutshell issue as far as what I can tell is that vaporization of a skyscraper should take more energy than melting a skyscraper since melting would be heating the solid state into a liquid state while the vaporization of a skyscraper whould be heating at a much higher since it would be going from solid to gas or basically turning to gas as quickly as it becomes liquid.
 
Yeah, Cooling feats are just as usable as heating feats. Also, while it's good to see @LordXcano, it was not so pleasant reading 3 troll blogs he posted on Reddit.
 
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