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Dimentio (Paper Mario) Vs Solaris (Sonic games)

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NotAMarioFan(lol) said:
Dimentio will destroy his timelines
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that's not how it works Dimentio cannot put Solaris down for good as he doesn't exist in the past, present or future and must beat solaris in all those times simultaniosly so Solaris only wins because of his speed
 
TISSG7Redgrave said:
NotAMarioFan(lol) said:
Dimentio will destroy his timelines
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that's not how it works Dimentio cannot put Solaris down for good as he doesn't exist in the past, present or future and must beat solaris in all those times simultaniosly so Solaris only wins because of his speed
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Yes. Solaris speedblitz before Dimentio can destroy any timelines.
 
Taco Man Extreme said:
You guys are biased Sonic fanboys Dimentio destroys Solaris with ease, along with the entire Sonicverse. Dummies.
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>Entire sonicverse

including Archie?

Why would you call someone delusional, when you're being the same way hypocrite, lmao.
 
MafiaFox said:
Taco Man Extreme said:
You guys are biased Sonic fanboys Dimentio destroys Solaris with ease, along with the entire Sonicverse. Dummies.
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>Entire sonicverse
including Archie?

Why would you call someone delusional, when you're being the same way hypocrite, lmao.
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isn't the game sonicverse different from the comic archieverse it's pretty clear that taco man extreme means only the game sonicverse.
 
Marionaruto1 said:
MafiaFox said:
Taco Man Extreme said:
You guys are biased Sonic fanboys Dimentio destroys Solaris with ease, along with the entire Sonicverse. Dummies.
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>Entire sonicverse
including Archie?

Why would you call someone delusional, when you're being the same way hypocrite, lmao.
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isn't the game sonicverse different from the comic archieverse it's pretty clear that taco man extreme means only the game sonicverse.
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Ah, as he said "sonicverse" I thought he meant composite, if he meant just the game, then I take back what I said :)
 
SOLARIS

Solaris can perform a spatial distortion meaning he can warp reality and distort all of space also causing any physical matter to bend https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S2NAKKkt5tAr9k8QZov3Ax0TvvTY7DmbvjpCnTpiPA=w810-h1440-rw-no Solaris can rip the fabric of the Universe and transform everything into nothing making him have Universal DC http://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/c/c9/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page319.jpg/702px-SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page319.jpg Manipulate the fabric of time itself https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H26fk5D_9pw/Vm8ZvEG19BI/AAAAAAAABfw/-LvGdCPE0bY/w320-h180-no/15%2B-%2B3 Warp Timelines http://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/7/7b/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page312.jpg/702px-SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page312.jpg Warp Space-Time Continuum http://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/5/54/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page318.jpg/702px-SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page318.jpg Solaris can consume all existing timelines and collapse it into nothingness making him have Multiversal DC https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7QzkcBWqGK2aoPB0TLZrv5yh6G8fymrmMpVi5YSAcw=w810-h1440-rw-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rTI0xKr0X-bFtt-1UcqYYKpf0nwAWa3Qli322Akffw=w810-h1440-rw-no Stated to destroy time itself and exist in all timelines https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1714190268817779&set=p.1714190268817779&type=3 stated that all the Timelines were destroyed http://info.sonicretro.org/images/0/0c/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page322.jpg His 2nd form is a Cosmic Creation that can destroy time and space itself meaning Solaris is Multiversal+. He can hurl Spiked Balls across space and a Supercharged Beam Attack that fires 8 energy beams http://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/8/86/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page321.jpg/702px-SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page321.jpg Since Solaris is destroying Multiverse by consuming all timelines he would be Megaversal since a Megaverse contains a large collection of multiverses (entirety of time and space)

Omnipresent https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GTZX1ePjajjpiRnYtWsBNWmduY8oMl4TmV_RlcNN2w=w810-h1440-rw-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SS0TS8NU2pelZwOt5ZWRfmCsTZtOnAFJGBDoCuaKcg=w810-h1440-rw-no omnipresent means travelling through time and space very fast existing in multiple timelines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0RfvnuVqg- Look at what eggman says at 1:37:27. He can exists in 3 timelines at a time, also meaning Three universes at a time

Omnichronogical https://youtu.be/ccryCyc9bhI (03:23)

Generate Electromagnetic Pulse https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WXBAVviEUcc/VmsonTeb3LI/AAAAAAAABY8/jBGtg7Ivs0Y/w636-h477-n-rw/15%2B-%2B1 Spatial Meltdown https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jJ6_j1ltNUY/VmsoncQ6ZuI/AAAAAAAABY8/5Vi0BTqEmHg/w636-h477-n-rw/15%2B-%2B3 Solaris can use the instability of time to cause a time-space rift, which destroys the fabric of reality https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1n7HTM7uIh3YlDt9JOch9Si5cc3aTudySB2zEwPlzA=w810-h1440-rw-no Can expand time-space rift destroying reality even further then before https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WSjuDKfrFa0/Vm584xLpZMI/AAAAAAAABeY/sYxERG33wSQ/w480-h270-p-rw/15%2B-%2B1 Time Space Rifts can absorb attacks http://info.sonicretro.org/images/8/86/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page321.jpg Time-Space Rifts can absorb energy http://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/3/38/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page316.jpg/702px-SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page316.jpg Increase the power of his Spiked Balls, which were generated from Time-Space Rift (that tears a fabric in reality) http://info.sonicretro.org/images/0/0c/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page322.jpg Rip the Space-Time Continuum http://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/d/df/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page310.jpg/702px-SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page310.jpg Fires an advanced beam attack, which fills void with eight lightning blasts of pure energy through space http://info.sonicretro.org/images/0/0c/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page322.jpg Solaris can send his foes and objects to distant worlds like how he did with the Chaos Emeralds https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/duAJd6qgEhYDdUGzRA9bYqTkFKRpd51HGGyX1J_vnA=w810-h1440-rw Powers and abilities

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/7/78/340px-06_Solaris2.png/revision/latest/thumbnail-down/width/340/height/340?cb=20100611100628 Super Shadow fighting Solaris

Solaris is arguably the most powerful being in the entire Sonic the Hedgehog series. Dr. Eggman himself theorized that without targeting Solaris' weakness, the deity was completely unstoppable. Along with possessing several godlike traits, it took the combined might of three super transformed hedgehogs to defeat him, and even then, they could not actually destroy him. As another testament to his power, Solaris is one of the few beings that can injure someone in a Super State through force.

Being a god of time, Solaris can freely manipulate and change the fabric of time itself; according to Dr. Eggman, Solaris is capable of devouring time and space on an incomprehensible scale, encompassing entire dimensions and timelines. As a transcendent life form, Solaris possess a unique state of existence that lets him exist in the past, present and future simultaneously, making him omnipresent throughout time and virtually impossible to defeat unless he is attacked simultaneously in all eras. He can also create time-space rifts which can either suck objects into oblivion or hurl meteors of condensed matter at opponents which can injure even a Super State user.

Much like his two halves, Iblis and Mephiles, Solaris is immortal and virtually indestructible. His body is unaffected by standard attacks, and it takes super-charged Chaos Powers from Super State users to just inflict harm on him. Even then, he was able to easily revitalize himself after taking extensive injuries from Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver. He is also able to project energy as massive lasers and purple orbs which are powerful enough to bypass the invulnerability of a Super State. In his second form, Solaris demonstrated the ability to generate an impenetrable shield of light named the "Wings of Light" that can block any attack. However, this shield works both ways, so Solaris has to lower it to launch his own attacks.

Solaris is capable of at least limited shapeshifting, allowing him to assume new and stronger physical forms, as seen when he changed the sun-like appendage on his back into wings. According to Princess Elise and Eggman, Solaris also possesses pyrokinetic abilities, which is further enforced by his relationship to Iblis, a being of fire.

Skills:

  • Time manipulation
    • Time destruction
    • Creating time-space rifts
  • Laser beam emission
  • Energy ball emission
  • Temporal omnipresence
  • Shapeshifting
  • Force-field generation
  • Immortality
  • Virtual-Invulnerability
  • Pyrokinesis
  • Telekinesis
Moves and techniques:

  • Wings of Light
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Solaris#Powers_and_abilities MFTL Speeds and Omnipresent Speeds

Speed: Omnipresent (across time), MFTL+ reactions and combat speed https://youtu.be/BSavm5JpCGo Due to Mephiles being part as his mind, Solaris has godly intelligence to enhance his speed to move through our different universes, Solaris is omnipresent basically. https://youtu.be/1DJbrcOz-Ww (03:06)

If Solaris is a transcended creature, then its natural for him to exists in 3 universes at a time by using his speed. That means that Solaris is more than a quintillion times FTL

Universal+ Durability: temporal omnipresence makes him very difficult to kill, as he must be destroyed in all time periods simultaneously to kill him through conventional means. https://youtu.be/BSavm5JpCGo Can withstand chaos powered meteors, made out of condensed matter, coming from time space rifts https://youtu.be/BSavm5JpCGo (0:30)

Can withstand the Spear of Light, which is powered by chaos energy https://youtu.be/BSavm5JpCGo (01:16)

Can withstand the Arrow of Light, a chaos powered technique that allows the user to attack at lightspeed https://youtu.be/BSavm5JpCGo (02:01)

Cosmic Armor http://info.sonicretro.org/images/thumb/0/00/SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page320.jpg/702px-SonictheHedgehog%282006%29_US_PrimaGuide_Page320.jpg Immune to Physical Attacks and can eat Dimensions https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bh4ZIVLUQFI/Vm8bATfYMJI/AAAAAAAABgk/2JylD2eXF8A/w320-h180-no/15%2B-%2B6´╗┐

Going by these durability feats, Solaris has Virtual Invulnerability since physical attacks can't harm him and super charged chaos powers are the only thing that can deal actual damage to him.´╗┐

Solaris has Unlimited Stamina and Unlimited Endurance as he is never tired keeping up or fighting the SUPERFORMS https://youtu.be/BSavm5JpCGo´╗┐

Due to Iblis being a part of his strength and capable of shattering cities and footholds with pure strength, Solaris is capable of shattering incomprehensible scale of timelines and dimensions with his strength https://youtu.be/1DJbrcOz-Ww (03:06) (Iblis is the flame)

´╗┐Since he gained Chaos energy from the 7 Chaos Emeralds, Solaris has 1000x power increase and having that power allowed him to damage the SUPERFORMS which also allowed him to bypass their Invulnerability https://youtu.be/1DJbrcOz-Ww (03:06) (Chaos Emeralds) ´╗┐https://youtu.be/rSLXOOCu69g (03:38) (bypass Invulnerability)´╗┐

Hurl condensed matter meteors with his telekinesis throughout space https://youtu.be/rSLXOOCu69g (0:36) Yeah Solaris has the edge here dudes
 
yeah the only reason i side with solaris is the speed as he exist in the past, present and future and must be attacked simultaniously in all those times to do damage if it was equalized it would be a stalemate or so but yeah @taco you just said that without stating the exact reason why dimentio wins..
 
TISSG7Redgrave said:
yeah the only reason i side with solaris is the speed as he exist in the past, present and future and must be attacked simultaniously in all those times to do damage if it was equalized it would be a stalemate or so but yeah @taco you just said that without stating the exact reason why dimentio wins..
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So should this battle be Inconclusive since it could go either way?
 
that's not how it works Dimentio cannot put Solaris down for good as he doesn't exist in the past, present or future and must beat solaris in all those times simultaniosly so Solaris only wins because of his speed
Yes. Solaris speedblitz before Dimentio can destroy any timelines.

Solaris doesn't even need to fight since he's Omnipresent. Solaris in the past already . Solaris erases the Past Paper Mario Timeline, Super Dimentio starts fading away.
 
Sorry for the bump. I thought that Super Dimentio beats Game Solaris yet people say that Game Solaris speedblitz Super Dimentio even though Super Dimentio has infinite speed while Game Solaris is nigh-Omnipresent in speed...
 
Super Dimentio stomps or no one wins.

Chaos Heart's invincibility strong as hell. Only Pure Hearts can down Chaos Heart Power.


Solaris and Super Dimentio may can't kill himselfes
 
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