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Spectre vs Asriel Dreemurr

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Ah I didn't know I had a child.

Anyways Asriel should win. Spectre tends to be outmatched by other 5-D entities and and the speed difference between them is huge. Also is high multiverse+ even a term we use?
 
Minus the Child of Omnipotence said:
I guess so, considering the discussion a while back, about Asriel , a lot of people used that term. I guess Asriel wins then ?
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Yes my child, but we need more members to respond, try people asking people who support both series.
 
As HIT IT said, I can possibly see Spectre making Asriel back down, but that's assuming this is like...post-final battle Asriel, somehow. Don't know if that counts as a win, though. Bloodlusted, I'd probably give it to Asriel, as Spectre's usually been outmatched by things of Asriel's level.
 
HIT IT said:
The Spectre is great at intimidation.

Asriel has the mental state of an 8 y/o.

Do the math.
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Asriel might have the mental state of a 8 year old, but he has all of the mental experience of Flowey and all of the confidence which comes from superior DETERMINATION.

Frisk Beat Asriel through pleading and convincing him that he was doing the wrong moral thing.

We have no idea if he would respond that way through intimidation.
 
Gnomishness said:
HIT IT said:
The Spectre is great at intimidation.

Asriel has the mental state of an 8 y/o.

Do the math.
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Asriel might have the mental state of a 8 year old, but he has all of the mental experience of Flowey and all of the confidence which comes from superior DETERMINATION.
Frisk Beat Asriel through pleading and convincing him that he was doing the wrong moral thing.

We have no idea if he would respond that way through intimidation.
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I always thought that that SAVEing (in the other sense) was some sort of telepathy since Frisky managed to communicate with the Lost Souls.

Anyway, I guess you have a point.
 
telepathy that was able to pick out specific individuals in a torrent of souls, also if Frisk v asriel is anything to go off of, Asriel would probably do a desperation attack if he gets spooked, so it becomes can spectre withstand a high 2-A laser
 
Spectre may be 2-A, according to his profile, but he is stated that he is much more comfortable fighting lower levels. This means that, while his power is great, he cant use it it more "effectively" on 2-A beings Im assuming.

Asriel has the advantage for three reasons.

When God Of Hyperdeath Asriel , fought with Frisk, he didnt go easy on him. His attacks were devastating, though he might start with his attacks easy first. So Im guessing that Asriel will toy with Spectre for the first move, which will potentially cause The Spectre to underestimate him and let hsi guard down, and then unleash more powerful attacks on him, example: Chaos Buster, Chaos Saber, Hyper Goner etc.

Asriel in his Angel Of Death form massively dwarfs his God Of Hyperdeath form by a massive amount. This would drastically increases his already devastating attacks. Also, in this state, he is Omnipresent as he exist throught every infinite timeline and cause Frisk to struggle literally, he cant move at all. So he clearly has the speed advantage here.

And Third, Spectre seems to be a very weak 2-A being, from my understanding. He prefers to fight beings lower than him, so its likely he will have an incredible hard time trying to fight Normal 2-A beings. Characters like God Flowey could him due to his bloodlusted attacks and abilities, giving The Spectre absolutely no chance to attack at all. Also, Asriel, In his God Of Hyperdeath form, literally dwarfs God Flowey by an Infinite amount, and Flowey is a character who can certainly beat The Spectre. Not to mention, Asriel final form, Angel of Death Form, also dwarfs his God Of Hyperdeath by a Immense amount so The Spectre, in a sense, is getting ROFL stomp here.


Edit: I realise this thread is FREAKING OLD
 
Asriel can rain stars, has infinite attack and defence and end timelines with a single attack. Unless Spectre has Determination high enough to stop him being killed by such a powerful force, Asriel takes this w/ min diff.
 
Just a few questions, how is Asriel 5-D and Omnipresent? Also, all of his attacks aside from Hyper Goner and Angel of Death are physical, right? How would he hit Spectre, a being with tons of experience, with very dodgeable swords, stars, lightning, and lasers with patterns?

For the record, I haven't decided who I'd think would be the victor yet.
 
Asriel vadtly transcend God Flowey, who in turn is beyond the 3 dimensional concept of time, by literally an infinite amount in his first form. His second form is difficult to pinpoint, hell, we can move him to Tier 1-C if all of the opposing staff accepted it. Asriel was Omnipresent in hos Angel of Death form, due to him having total control all aspects of space and time and exist throughout all of the infinite timeline and also manage to contact Frsik eventhough he havent existed yet. All of Asriel attacks are magic/energy based. ALL of the monsters in the game are made of magic, and his attacks are clearly made out of some type of energy. Experiences in High Tiers doesnt really matter, its more into their raw abilities and techniques. His experiences wont matter due to Asriel literally live throughout every infinite timeline which technically allows him the Nigh-Omniscient status (though I dunno why the editors did not put this) Every attacks in fiction can be dodge. Dont forget that Spectre is from a comic book series and Asriel is from an RPG game that you have the ability to dodge....its a RPG game. Also, Asriel in his first form from very very hilariously casual with his attacks, so his attacks will just become stronger.
 
Its already clear that Spectre who is 2-A character is more comfortable fighting lower levels, because he has difficulty fighying characters in his level. Asriel, by all accounts, literally dwarfs a powerful 2-A character who is God Flowey as well by an Infinite amount literally, all of his in game stats are Infinite and this is only his first form. His final form manage to again dwarf his previous form by a massive amount as well, so yeah. He ROFL stomp Spectre into oblivion
 
Problem is though, it's supposed to be Flowey impersonating Asriel on the phone, evidenced by the fact that the elevator door is covered by vines, as that's something Asriel's never done. And being dodge able in this case is canon because in this game, mechanics are apparently canon. That's why most of the characters are where they are. You referenced it yourself with infinite stats, which could very well be low 2C, though it likely isn't. Another thing is that Asriel's power span is only a short time. He only has his power for a few minutes at a time before willingly giving it up. He's not going through different timelines ever, just destroying them, therefore he's not nigh-omniscient. Total control equals immeasurable. Not omnipresent, just look at Arceus. And just being above another 2-A character doesn't mean that he's above the opposing character. I see that 2A>2A often with Shin Megami Tensei.
 
Asriel has power over all aspects all reality and existence, Frisk cant move when Asriel is in full power form. He is omnipresent, now be quiet and accept these facts :D . case close.
 
1. Who's going around saying Asriel is 5-D? Because he isn't. Having infinite 4-D power isn't the same as 5-D power.

2. Asriel's omnipresence is only on a certain scale, like most omnipresence. The reason Arceus is immeasurable is due to being above Palkia and Dialga, who are omnipresent on a scale Arceus created (which should therefore be below him).

3. Asriel's attacks are really only "easy" to dodge when he's messing around. When he goes full power, Frisk only seems to be able to move briefly, and that's the first point in the fight where Asriel 100% begins to kill Frisk.
 
The real cal howard said:
Problem is though, it's supposed to be Flowey impersonating Asriel on the phone, evidenced by the fact that the elevator door is covered by vines, as that's something Asriel's never done.
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I think it's more likely Asriel than Flowey, mainly due to the fact that at that time, Flowey would have no reason to use Asriel's voice (which he only ever did when begging for Chara to spare his life). There's also the fact that Flowey never contacts the protagonist via phone, and it wouldn't be to play with Frisk's emotions either, as Frisk had no idea who the hell Asriel was (other than some kid who died, one time).
 
ahhh Azzy, I am happy to have an all-knowing friend like you (this is a reference to the past, I hope you know what is this refering too :D)
 
Alright. I'll accept the facts and say that ol Asriel will win. For the record, I'll never try to downplay any Undercharacter.
 
@Des

Via what?

@Cal

I never said he conclusively wins, though he he might have a higher chance in his full power form should he be bloodlusted. I was just clearing a few things up.
 
I know. I just don't want to piss off my UnderFriends, namely you and Elvis. So I made a definite decision.
 
Im going for Asriel because according to Spectre's profile, he would rather fight lower tiers, so this means he wont put up a very formidable fight with Asriel.

Asriel has more haxes and abilities to overcome Spectre. Im going with Asriel.
 
Penguinkingpin said:
@Adika Oh hey, seems I run into you often.
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Well, you can find me in any VS Threads that is related to Dragon Ball or Undertale. I am a huge fan of these two things so I will mostly take part in most threads like this lol
 
I am rooting for Asriel becuz of his supposedly infinite attacks and health. He has alot more abilities and is more faster than spectre
 
Like my friend above said,

Asriel has far more abilities and attacks that will entirely demolish Spectre into oblivion. Asriel is omnipresent so he can attack Spectre all the time
 
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