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Akame ga Kill! BoS stats revisions.(OP Updated)

VersusJunkie54

VersusJunkie54

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UPDATE THIS BLOG CONTAINS THE NEW AP AND SPEED STATS FOR THE BOS CHARACTERS https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:VersusJunkie54/Akame_ga_Kill,_Chapters_1-25_ish_Feat_%26_Calculations_compilatio (Cracks Knuckles) This should've been done long ago. To make this plain and simple, there was never any Low 7-C feat to begin with.

I felt it necessary to make a new thread based on this alone, since the last one wasn't getting a lot of attention.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lina_Shields/HeRe_CoMeS_tHe_BoOm

This is the original calculation by Lina Shields. The math is solid, however, it assumes that Leone remains in the same place, witch was always false.

http://*********.com/Manga/Akame-ga-Kill/Vol-007-Ch-032--Kill-the-Curse?id=149606#30

This is the scene where Bols is about to detonate his Teigu.

http://*********.com/Manga/Akame-ga-Kill/Vol-007-Ch-032--Kill-the-Curse?id=149606#31

http://*********.com/Manga/Akame-ga-Kill/Vol-007-Ch-032--Kill-the-Curse?id=149606#34

This is the next scene where it detonates, and where we see Akame and Leone next.

As we can see, not only is Leone behind a shield, but she also moved away from where the original calc assumed that she was. The result of said calc was 1058 tons, a hair above baseline Low 7-C.

"But Versus, Leone still tanked the air pressure on the shield"

That is true, however, Leone is most certainly no longer 3.7 meters away from the blast like she was before. Plus, heat still plays a big role in the blast, the shield partially negated that.

http://*********.com/Manga/Akame-ga-Kill/Vol-007-Ch-032--Kill-the-Curse?id=149606#35

To put the nail in the coffin for Low 7-C Akame ga Kill, Leone faints immediately afterwards. Though this may be due to her injuries sustained in the previous battle. And she ends up regenerating and getting back up shortly after.

TLDR: The assumptions in the original calc are false, and the result is almost certainly in the Tier 8 range now.

"But Versus, what about the pattern of the crater in the scan?:

I noticed that as well, but all the reasons I pointed out still stand, plus said pattern ends behind them, indicating they are on or near the rim of the crater, 33 meters away from the epicenter. Using the Square Inverse law, I wouldn't be surprised if this was in the lower tiers of Tier 8.

So what is my proposal? I still need someone to calc the speed Leone moved while carrying Akame. I'll get that soonly enough. But for the new stat, it can come from the KE of Leone moving Akame at whatever speed is calculated.

Thoughts?

TLDR:Much discussion has passed, the downgrades aren't happening. Upgrades actually)

http://*********.com/Manga/Akame-ga-Kill/Vol-008-Ch-037--Kill-the-Fate--Part-002-?id=167297#34

In this scene, in the MoS Seryu takes a shot from Pumpkin and survives.

Updating.

BoS

Low-Tiers. High 8-C. All of the former 9-A characters will be upgraded to this.

At least High 8-C for all the former Low 7-C's.Scaling from Tatsumi

Speed, Supersonic+ for the Low-Tiers scaling from a fodder evading a bullet in Zero.. At least Supersonic+ for High-Tiers.(Based on Akame casually weaving around bullets, and generally being faster than before)

MoS key:

Low-Tiers. Likely High 7-C, partially scaling from Seryu who took a shot from Pumpkin, albeit injured.

High-Tiers: High 7-C, possibly higher. (Stronger than before, scaling from Seryu who at this point in the series took a blask from Pumpkin and survived, also Leone and Akame who withstood an unknown ammount of the destruction of Bols' Teigu)

'Speed:' Hypersonic+ for everyone. (May need to adjust the explosion dodging calc though)

In Favor: Hagane no Saiyaji BlackeJa Gargoyle One VersusJunkie54 TriforcePower1 Huesito88

Against:

Unsure/Undecided:
 
TriforcePower1 said:
Only thing I didn't notice before, the heat would have still enveloped Akame and Leone, even with the shield.
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Except that they are signifigantly farther than 3.7 meters. The Square Inverse Law for explosions is expotential. So the result would at the very best be in the lower ends of 8-A. They appear to be on, or close to the rim of the crater, so probably much less than that.
 
Okay trying again, I looked at the instructions again. So 109083/ 4*pi*33.54^2= 7.71 Tons.

Large Building level+

Furthermore, if we were to assume that Leone evaded the explosion at High Hypersonic+ speed, since that's what I expect, lets plug this in.

Akame should weigh like 60 Kg, average weight for a woman.

17000m/s*60 Kg= 8670000000 Joules, or 2.072 tons. Still High 8-C

Sigh.....
 
So all in all, the AP is going to be High 8-C no patter what happens. I think this is a pretty straightforward change.
 
Update, Zainybrainy helped me out, the energy Leone tanked was actually 13.3 tons. Barely baseline 8-B. And he is working on the speed.

This scales to all of the former Low 7-C characters.
 
Muhammedmco said:
But LinaShields' calc outright proves that Leone is Low 7-C, so why are you suggesting that it's wrong?
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Did you not read the OP? I debunked the Low 7-C calc. It makes a lot of false asumptions.
 
Zainy is going to put the results into a blog, but for the speed of Leone evading the blast, he got Mach 14, Hypersonic+
 
RebubleUselet said:
And here I hoped for Yang vs Leone rematch...
But yeah, the OP seems reasonable.
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Depending on how the evaluation goes, we may have to divide the final result by 2, so it would be a probability. But Leone would still hold an AP advantage, tho I hope it wouldn't be a stomp.
 
Just saying but everyone from the explosion (apparently) took some damage so tbh they should be like High 8-C
 
13.3/2= 6.65 tons. Large Building level+.

But wether or not they were actually enveloped by the heat of the blast is debateable.
 
Would heat be blocked by such a thing? Wouldn't it just go right through, while the shockwave is blocked?
 
The calc seems a bit off given the context of the older calc it took it's numbers from. I commented providing more context and scans to see if we can come to a more accurate solution.
 
VersusJunkie54 said:
13.3/2= 6.65 tons. Large Building level+.

But wether or not they were actually enveloped by the heat of the blast is debateable.
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They did take damage but by how much I don't k ow but the way Akame was talking it wast much. I forgot what ch. it was but do a "before and after" with the page numbers. B4 the explosion everyone wasn't injured but after the explosion they had injury spots on their bodies
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
The calc seems a bit off given the context of the older calc it took it's numbers from. I commented providing more context and scans to see if we can come to a more accurate solution.
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Crap, well Zainy is not nearly knowledgeable enough in the verse to put the pieces together correctly. Someone else may have to do it. I mighttttt be able to handle an AP calc, but not speed.
 
Someone roughly Building level can destroy villages as well, by knocking over buildings one by one, so that doesn't tell us much.
 
I see. That makes sense.

I think that instead of taking the 9-A rating from Lubbock and Sten's clash, someone should calculate the power of said danger beast, even if its through sheer size alone. I think.
 
Muhammedmco said:
I see. That makes sense.
I think that instead of taking the 9-A rating from Lubbock and Sten's clash, someone should calculate the power of said danger beast, even if its through sheer size alone. I think.
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If you send me some scans of fodder Danger Beasts destroying things, I could try to calc how strong the 9-A's could be.

Are there any noteworthy Tier 8 feats in Zero?
 
The first fodder beast that appeared in the manga is this big guy. An Earth Beast, lowest of the low, and it just tunnels through the ground with ease.

Assumptions on how strong it is: It should be able to dig itself out like it did in the manga from the depth equal to its own height, and that's a lowball.

Why the assumption is reasonable: It appeared entirely upright so it couldn't have been tunneling horizontally.

How that can be calced: Hell if I know.
 
The calc is solid. And I don't think changing any views will alter the result. Considering how they were likely enveloped by the heat from the blast, they're going to be baseline 8-B.

I wan't to get this done. Everyone quote this message if you agree with the downgrades. If you disagree, write a counter-argument in response to it.

Also, can someone get Gargoyle? I left a message on his wall inviting him to this and he has yet to reply.
 
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