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Son Goku vs Pops

Goku might actually take this, but how good are Pops' reality warping, time manipulation and invisibility?
 
Pops doesn't use poetry in this form and his Invisibility is fairly standard. I don't really remember using his time abilities against anti-pops but I could be wrong.
 
Pops is NOT a fighter. Therefore, in a battle where their speeds are equalized (and possibly their attack power since they're the same tier), goku should take this.
 
Poinciana1971 said:
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
Pop's doesn't fight. The hell is this?
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Pops has been fighting his brother every 14 billion years, so yeah he can fight.
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The same guy who can't even take a simple Punch likely didn't even FIGHT FIGHT his brother during their 14 Billion years of Living. Other types of fighting, yes. But not hand to hand (Or something like that). For all we know, they fought by playing Checkers or some stuff.
 
Let me catch you up to speed.

Every 14 billion years Pops and Anti-Pops fight each other. The clashing of their fists destroys and recreates the universe. This event has happened hundreds of times over.

Earl tries to help Pops regain his martial arts expertise so he can fight Anti-Pops once again. Heck even before Pops regains his skills he was a highly skilled wrestler who took down a polar bear.

Saying that "Pops can't take a punch", "Pops never fights hand to hand" or "Every 14 billion years Pops and Anti-Pops played checkers instead of fighting" is complete nonsense.

Yeah Pops and Anti-Pops also often fight with energy blasts and their hax. But they heavily utilize hand to hand combat as well.

Not arguing who'd win this fight, however I have to clear up some terrible misinformation about Regular Show being spread here.
 
Anyway, Pops wins. Ultra Instinct can't dodge planet sized punches w/o IT, so the power boost though dodging isn't gonna trigger. Pops has more abilities to help him win, and his size makes it so that even though Goku has the AP advantage, he's not going to be doing major damage.

Btw, Pops' giant size isn't gonna hinder him. Anti-Pops has shown using that size to screw with people smaller than Goku.
 
The real cal howard said:
Anyway, Pops wins. Ultra Instinct can't dodge planet sized punches w/o IT, so the power boost though dodging isn't gonna trigger. Pops has more abilities to help him win, and his size makes it so that even though Goku has the AP advantage, he's not going to be doing major damage.
Btw, Pops' giant size isn't gonna hinder him. Anti-Pops has shown using that size to screw with people smaller than Goku.
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What power boost through dodging? That's like not a thing.
 
Also I do not remember size every being able to balance out an AP advantage when a character also has ridiculous AOE. We are talking about characters who can bust universes and have blast that can bust planets. Size doesn't matter here.
 
And Reality Warping and Time Haxes. Goku is usually faster iirc, but with speed equal he gets stomped. Speed unequal he speed stomps.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
And Reality Warping and Time Haxes. Goku is usually faster iirc, but with speed equal he gets stomped.
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Bluetter said that he hasn't poetry in this form.
 
Yeah, but any combat and character flaws still are in play. Being willing to kill doesn't really change that. He's not bloodlusted.

State of mind: In character, but willing to kill. The characters will employ their usual battle strategies, including flaws such as being casual, however, must be willing to kill the opponent even if they usually won't.
 
I actually give this one to Goku.

From what we've seen he's a much better martial artist (though I guess one could infer that Pops has greater experience from his unseen eons of fighting).

He's significantly higher in AP than Pops is. (Pops is around baseline Low 2-C and Goku can stomp baselines or others higher than baseline)

Pops has more defensive powers to counter Anti-Pops's offensive powers so his hax isn't the best. Also when we're talking about MFTL+ people with universal+ area of effect/range, someone being star sized is hardly a factor.

Still had to address the misinformation about Pops not at all being a hand to hand fighter, that he can't take a simple punch or that him and Anti-Pops played checkers instead of fighting every 14 billion years.
 
@Antorus It's alright. Don't sweat it.

@Cal Now will you respond to my PM then ovo
 
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