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So I noticed FW Godzilla and Monster X are island lvl due to a calculation by TheJ-ManRequiem
Now before I go on I must give a HUGE thanks to requiem for going over almost all the godzilla films and bringing more of a vs debating perspective on the franchise. Anyway, back to topic, using the given numbers this calc isn't mathematiclly incorrect BUT he himself says the meteors weight is unspecified and only goes off of the weight of monster x
The meteor is the gorath astriod which in all almost incarnations is said/described to be extremly dense, more so than a star even. (No I'm not saying the astriod in FW is the same one that stars in the other films since that would make this feat high end large star lvl and that doesn't add up at all obviously, I am just supporting that the arguement that the meteor has a much higher weight than monster x alone)
Now in the film the meteor is said mutiple times and even shown in a hologram that it WILL destroy the planet and this is a crucial plot point. If something that is stated is a important part of the current situation, arch, or entire story then it is usually accepted especially since the hypothetical result was actually shown and Godzilla had to output a energy equivalent to not only slow down the acceleration of said object but tank it, along with this meteor hitting him in the face (insert bill burr bit here) and resulting in little damege to Godzilla.
Refusing this and saying it's island because *Insert reason with most likley less evidence than opposing claim* is like saying majin vegetas sacrifice against fat buu was island lvl despite the scaling, statements, feats, etc...
If you're still sceptical then don't worry I'm not done.
Keizer said to be the strongest member of the Ghidorah family in the FW theater program. WoG has been used for other godzilla monsters and godzilla himself on the IDW page so as long as it doesn't mess with the scaling it's fine and this shouldn't complicate any of that especially if the meteor statement is taking into account. Even then some pages just need WoG and thats it so why not here
And king ghidorah in the heisei era is listed as 5-B or Planetary due to his performance against Godzilla who is stronger than mothra and battra individually, both of whom deflected a planet busting astroid. (kinda like the one discussed earlier)
And the previous arguement supports this claim
Now it is also thrown around that he is the strongest godzilla villian but this is a mistranslation the statment was similar to this but not exact saying he is "One of" the strongest "movie" villians
which wouldn't be inaccurate considering his superiority over king ghidorah should support this since heisei mechagodzilla vs spacegodzilla is actually a hotly debated topic in the Godzilla community since the og spacegodzilla script stared Mecha G rather than moguera but the director and producer thought the "Mecha G and Big G combo" (gotta love that name, sounds like the best kids meal ever) would be too much for spacegodzilla, and destroyah is the only heisei villan after battle for earth to be definitley above the rest. (I personnally agree on Mecha G being the most powerful till destroyah but even then mecha KG is arguably just as debatable as the spacegodzilla debate and Mecha KG should also be included in the keizer ghidorah statement)
Point is keizer ghidorah is definetly 5-B and keizer ghidorah is slightly weaker than monster x defensively since his gravity beams locked with godzillas, (yes they eventually overpowered him but the fact that it was a struggle should imply enough) his design is his exoskeleton, monster x tanked godzillas breath head on, and keizer blew off one his own head accidentally which means his physical power isn't equal to his gravity beams. Also a little extra just cuz since the page is not limited to incarnation, like the other non-Godzilla monsters, keizer can change back into monster x in the IDW canon
So all in all
Consistent statements
Actually shown feat
and WoG multiple times
Thus so
Godzilla (FW) should be upgraded to 5-B or Planetary
Monster X should be upgraded to 5-B or Planetary
And Keizer Ghidorah should be upgraded to 5-B or Planetary respectively
Sources:
http://wikizilla.org/wiki/Monster_X
[URL='https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/3/30/The_meteor.png/revision/latest?cb=20180219000139']
Godzilla: Final Wars Super Complete Works[/URL] (p. 28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUvOwPfpvFg&feature=youtu.be
http://wikizilla.org/wiki/Theater_programs
All Toho Monsters Pictorial Book (4th Edition)
And of course the film itself Godzilla: Final Wars
Now before I go on I must give a HUGE thanks to requiem for going over almost all the godzilla films and bringing more of a vs debating perspective on the franchise. Anyway, back to topic, using the given numbers this calc isn't mathematiclly incorrect BUT he himself says the meteors weight is unspecified and only goes off of the weight of monster x
The meteor is the gorath astriod which in all almost incarnations is said/described to be extremly dense, more so than a star even. (No I'm not saying the astriod in FW is the same one that stars in the other films since that would make this feat high end large star lvl and that doesn't add up at all obviously, I am just supporting that the arguement that the meteor has a much higher weight than monster x alone)
Now in the film the meteor is said mutiple times and even shown in a hologram that it WILL destroy the planet and this is a crucial plot point. If something that is stated is a important part of the current situation, arch, or entire story then it is usually accepted especially since the hypothetical result was actually shown and Godzilla had to output a energy equivalent to not only slow down the acceleration of said object but tank it, along with this meteor hitting him in the face (insert bill burr bit here) and resulting in little damege to Godzilla.
Refusing this and saying it's island because *Insert reason with most likley less evidence than opposing claim* is like saying majin vegetas sacrifice against fat buu was island lvl despite the scaling, statements, feats, etc...
If you're still sceptical then don't worry I'm not done.
Keizer said to be the strongest member of the Ghidorah family in the FW theater program. WoG has been used for other godzilla monsters and godzilla himself on the IDW page so as long as it doesn't mess with the scaling it's fine and this shouldn't complicate any of that especially if the meteor statement is taking into account. Even then some pages just need WoG and thats it so why not here
And king ghidorah in the heisei era is listed as 5-B or Planetary due to his performance against Godzilla who is stronger than mothra and battra individually, both of whom deflected a planet busting astroid. (kinda like the one discussed earlier)
And the previous arguement supports this claim
Now it is also thrown around that he is the strongest godzilla villian but this is a mistranslation the statment was similar to this but not exact saying he is "One of" the strongest "movie" villians
which wouldn't be inaccurate considering his superiority over king ghidorah should support this since heisei mechagodzilla vs spacegodzilla is actually a hotly debated topic in the Godzilla community since the og spacegodzilla script stared Mecha G rather than moguera but the director and producer thought the "Mecha G and Big G combo" (gotta love that name, sounds like the best kids meal ever) would be too much for spacegodzilla, and destroyah is the only heisei villan after battle for earth to be definitley above the rest. (I personnally agree on Mecha G being the most powerful till destroyah but even then mecha KG is arguably just as debatable as the spacegodzilla debate and Mecha KG should also be included in the keizer ghidorah statement)
Point is keizer ghidorah is definetly 5-B and keizer ghidorah is slightly weaker than monster x defensively since his gravity beams locked with godzillas, (yes they eventually overpowered him but the fact that it was a struggle should imply enough) his design is his exoskeleton, monster x tanked godzillas breath head on, and keizer blew off one his own head accidentally which means his physical power isn't equal to his gravity beams. Also a little extra just cuz since the page is not limited to incarnation, like the other non-Godzilla monsters, keizer can change back into monster x in the IDW canon
So all in all
Consistent statements
Actually shown feat
and WoG multiple times
Thus so
Godzilla (FW) should be upgraded to 5-B or Planetary
Monster X should be upgraded to 5-B or Planetary
And Keizer Ghidorah should be upgraded to 5-B or Planetary respectively
Sources:
http://wikizilla.org/wiki/Monster_X
[URL='https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/3/30/The_meteor.png/revision/latest?cb=20180219000139']
Godzilla: Final Wars Super Complete Works[/URL] (p. 28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUvOwPfpvFg&feature=youtu.be
http://wikizilla.org/wiki/Theater_programs
All Toho Monsters Pictorial Book (4th Edition)
And of course the film itself Godzilla: Final Wars
