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- Naruto is Serious

- Lapis is Bloodlusted

- Battle takes place on an uninhabited earth

Round 2

- Nardo is joined by Sauce

- Lapis is joined by the SU verse (Minus the Cluster)

- Rest same as above
 
Naruto wins easily he has better hax as well as better DC and speed she's only MHS with combat speed which is consistent with others of her lvl in the series.Naruto should be easily able to perceive her combat movements and he has TSB that should ignore durability.For round 2 Sasuke could blitz the most of them with his teleportation and better combat speed as well as hax and DC also both of them should win.

Naruto both rounds.
 
Combat speed =/= flight speed it's common knowledge silver surfer can't fight as fast as he can fly via his board.

TSB is only negated by others with it.So no
 
Why do you act like hax makes everything? Lapis could just fly into space and constantly hit Naruto with the ocean.
 
The Everlasting said:
Why do you act like hax makes everything? Lapis could just fly into space and constantly hit Naruto with the ocean.
He has better DC also btw Naruto can also survive in the vacuum of space you should watch the last.
 
But how can he get to Lapis? She could just continually fly away whenever Naruto gets close (Besides, can't Naruto not fly?), my point had nothing to do with Naruto not being able to survive in space.

Also, their DC is equal. Heck, Lapis is a little stronger.
 
It seems like in debates with a naruto character that can use TSB, they automatically say that a naruto character that uses TSB wins because the TSB can destroy anything"
 
Yeah, but Lapis can still continuously escape from Naruto by just flying away.

Well, from where they are now, they're generally equal, but Lapis is a bit stronger.
 
Also, couldn't Lapis just control ALL of the Earth's ocean and smash Naruto with that until he goes down? IMHO, i really can't seem to Naruto countering something as big as the entire planets water crushing on to him even with all his powers and current stats.

Though i could say that he will survive it, that's for sure.
 
Yeah, Lapis can control all of Earth's waters easily even when her Gem is cracked, hence the "At least" in her stats.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Umm, no he's still High 6-A
Nah I'm pretty sure Kav and Ant have both agreed upon his upgrade....


No, ant say's he's moon, but Kav said his At least High 6-A, and if you check the thread an debeate is still going on abut it with Davy and Bais
 
The Everlasting said:
Yeah, but Lapis can still continuously escape from Naruto by just flying away.

Well, from where they are now, they're generally equal, but Lapis is a bit stronger.
She'd need actual combat speed to hurt him.He can perceive her movements since he's literally at least a few times faster than her combat speed.He has flight ,better Hax and upcoming better DC he wins as far as I know she can't even use her high 6A feat via his speed and flight so how does she even have a slim chance of winning?
 
Last I checked, he was going to remain at High 6-A, just with an at least.

What good will his hax do when he can't hit Lapis?

The way I see it is that she flies too far for Naruto to see when the fight starts and she constantly bombards him with the ocean as Naruto's left confused at why the ocean is suddenly attacking him.
 
Umm, no he's still High 6-A
Nah I'm pretty sure Kav and Ant have both agreed upon his upgrade....


No, ant say's he's moon, but Kav said his At least High 6-A, and if you check the thread an debeate is still going on abut it with Davy and Bais

I know all that tho...
 
The Everlasting said:
Last I checked, he was going to remain at High 6-A, just with an at least.

What good will his hax do when he can't hit Lapis?

The way I see it is that she flies too far for Naruto to see when the fight starts and she constantly bombards him with the ocean as Naruto's left confused at why the ocean is suddenly attacking him.
She can't bombard anyone he has flight and he can join her in space ...And since she's only high 6A in earth and doesn't have hax she can't win against win at all.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Umm, no he's still High 6-A
Nah I'm pretty sure Kav and Ant have both agreed upon his upgrade....
No, ant say's he's moon, but Kav said his At least High 6-A, and if you check the thread an debeate is still going on abut it with Davy and Bais I know all that tho...
no you don't
 
Except how would Naruto know she's there? She could literally fly up fast enough to where Naruto didn't even know where she went. If Lapis managed to grab Naruto (Which could happen as Naruto would run out of places to go) she could literally just drown him.
 
The Everlasting said:
Except how would Naruto know she's there? She could literally fly up fast enough to where Naruto didn't even know where she went. If Lapis managed to grab Naruto (Which could happen as Naruto would run out of places to go) she could literally just drown him.
Kurama mode prevents the drowning she can't grab a 100 meter creature Naruto just reverts to that when she decides to do so.And he can escape her attacks they're too slow anyways.
 
@CHILLVIBEZZ

How does Kurama mode prevent drowning? Again, Naruto would run out of places to go and eventually Lapis' attacks would reach him.

There's also the fact that, according to Naruto's page, he can't breathe in space (And I recall hearing that Naruto's moon has an atmosphere), so he has no real way of following Lapis.

Also, travel speed can be applied to combat. This page details that pretty well.
 
@The Everlasting

First of all it wouldn't but it would prevent her from even grabbing him and drowning him further.

Secondly it's not via fighting on the moon it's via literally going after Toneri in space after he went flying to the earth.

Third I'm pretty sure that was brought up in the Kyogre thread as well.We lost combat and flight speed differently for a reason. Her combat speed is far too slow for her to win.If she flights into space and decides to bombard him I'm sure he'd be able to perceive her attacks and dodge them seeing as how he's leagues faster than her attacks and combat speed in general.
 
How?

Then why doesn't his profile say he can breathe in space?

She can't attack at that speed, but she could just fly straight through Naruto and fling him into space. The page I just linked explains how travel speed can be applied in combat.
 
Don't forget that Naruto can sense bad intentions (when Kisame was spying and Naruto detected him with his new mode)
 
Naruto in this wiki might get an upgrade to moon level but this match is very close however Naruto can win cause he also can control water even though limited and has hax to match with her plus both can fly.
 
Inconclusive, Lapiz massive speed advantage makes her unable to be hit by Naruto but if she goes h2h against Naruto she will get completely destroyed.
 
CaptainFalcon64 said:
Inconclusive, Lapiz massive speed advantage makes her unable to be hit by Naruto but if she goes h2h against Naruto she will get completely destroyed.
Agreed
 
I'm just gonna add this as an inconclusive match on Lapis' profile. Can someone add this as inconclusive to Naruto's profile, or unlock it for a second so I can add it?
 
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