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Time Breaker Bardock VS Zen'ō

Well, Zen'o has no feat of being able to erase a 2-B, and doesn't have enough AP to harm a 2-B, so, he's not killing Bardock, while Bardock can one-shot him. Isn't Zen'o way faster tho?
 
Does time breaker bardock have resistance to existence erasure? Because if he doesn't then this should be a stomp in Zenos favor.
 
By feats Zeno isn't faster, his reactions at least are not even on par with ToP characters. He is faster than Bardock in travel speed. Bardock was fighting with Mira outside of time and space and erasing parts of time as they fought IIRC.
 
But heres the thing if bardock doesnt have resistance to existence erasure then its just a matter who attacks first.
 
@Paulo

They are both in the same dimensional level, as such, Zen'o hax can affect Bardock.
 
Ok, I guess. I really don't get how we use hax in here, in some threads, people say that hax doesn't work because it has never affected people on that level (even if they're on the same dimensional level), but in some other threads, hax does work, it's confusing.
 
In the last staff thread talking about hax, it was concluded that hax affects anyone without resistance to it, as long as they are both in the same dimensional level.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
In the last staff thread talking about hax, it was concluded that hax affects anyone without resistance to it, as long as they are both in the same dimensional level.
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That makes absolutely no sense. Just becuase a character is a higher dimension than another character doesn't mean the weaker characters hax is ineffective.
 
Jirl9090 said:
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
In the last staff thread talking about hax, it was concluded that hax affects anyone without resistance to it, as long as they are both in the same dimensional level.
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That makes absolutely no sense. Just becuase a character is a higher dimension than another character doesn't mean the weaker characters hax is ineffective.
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It all comes to the hax character to prove that he can erase someone on his own level. Like the other Zen'o for example. Bardock is currently missing, he is not dead because he defeated Mira, so he has survive the destruction of timelines in his fight with Mira.
 
@Jirl

I will simplify this to you. Can you, a 3-dimensional being, imagine a 4-dimensional one? Could you describe it using all of your senses?

We can't. Is the same with hax. Without having a proper showing, a 3-D being can't hax someone on a higher dimensional level. Bardock and Zen'o are 3-D beings with 4-D power, so they can interact with each other and the latter's hax works.
 
Unless Bardock points or blinks and kills Zeno before he lifts his arm, opens then closes his hand... He's done for.

It's not in Bardock's style to do that so it's unlikely.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Unless Bardock points or blinks and kills Zeno before he lifts his arm, opens then closes his hand... He's done for.

It's not in Bardock's style to do that so it's unlikely.
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Thats what im saying. It just depends on who attacks first.
 
zeno erased an entire timeline in the manga

do you guys even know how dragonball works? bardock is way weaker than zeno

just because this wiki says he's 2B because of some bullshit feat doesn't mean he is
 
Bardock one shots.

  • Better speed feats
  • Better skill fighter
  • Stronger AP (The final clash between Bardock and Mira erased all of history for a time despite been fighting outside of time itself.)
  • Time Travel to Zeno's birth and kill him (In worst case scenario)
 
Tonybalongna said:
zeno erased an entire timeline in the manga

do you guys even know how dragonball works? bardock is way weaker than zeno

just because this wiki says he's 2B because of some bullshit feat doesn't mean he is
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In here we follow the profiles how they are. So Bardock is 2-B in this fight.
 
Logic tells me Zeno wins.

But Stats tell me Bardock wins.

My brains cannot take this cognitive dissonance. I vote Bardock and call it a day for reasons above.
 
Well, if erase would work, it depends on who attacks faster, and apparently, Bardock's faster (I guess?), and he's willing to kill due to SBA, so, I guess I'm going with him.
 
TB Bardock due to speed not being equalized allowing him to blitz and one shot. If it was, Zen-Oh wins.
 
Bardok Wins he is so high into 2b that I'd say that in base he's high 2b plu but that's just speck right?
 
Bardock easily takes this if it's not considered a stomp.
 
If thats not a stomp, then this can be added (Aeyu plus my vote being for TB Bardock makes it 8-1)


Grace period
 
Unless Bardock's feat, in DBH, of existing in nonexistence can count as resistance to void manipulation, Zeno erases.
 
zeno because he cannot be defeated.

this has been used so many times in the yt comment sections to why he beats any character in fiction therefore my answer is valid.
 
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