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Sailor Moon VS Pegasus Seiya (Rematch)

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IIRC this match was done a long time ago but removed because seiya was upgraded to 2-C. Now that both are 2-C this can hopefully be fair.


Speed equalized.


I HAVE ZERO REGRETS.


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As far as I can tell, both of them resist a lot of hax that the other has, such as destroying souls and existence erasure.

One big advantage that Seiya does have though is his Reactive Evolution to be able to adapt and become immune to her techniques.

One big thing that Seiya has to overcome is her Mid-Godly Regenerationn and Concept Manipulation. I question whether or not Seiya has this because of his feat in Overture he was able to reach the level of the Olympians with the 9th Sense. Gods need this kind of hax and erasure abilities to fight/defeat one another.
 
Pegasus Seiya may have resistance to existence erasure, but he doens't have the regenerative abilites to come back from it. Meaning that, Seiya has no room for error.

Sailor Moon on the other hand does. With Immortality type 8, Mid-Godly Regen. Sailor Moon can keep coming back again and again. She can afford to make mistakes. However that doesn't mean she will make any.

With the ability to send her past self information, and as well precognition. With Sailor Mercury's battle analysis power. She can approch cautiously.

Next, Sailor Moon can erase things not just from existance, she can erase things from non-existance. This is a level of existance erasure that I think Pegasus Seiya has yet to try to resist. He's struggling to resist Hade's erasure existence, and this was just a side effect of being hit with the sword. Has Seiya resisted a head on existence erasure? Idk. I'm asking for a friend. (I'm only knowledgable of the classic manga)

Whether the answer to the question is Yes or No. I offer you these other options for Sailor Moon: Power Nullification and her Silver Moon Crystal Eternal Power, Power Nullifcation and negate or at least weaken Seiya's power and ability to resist being erased. As for Silver Moon Crystal Eternal Power:

Chaos was fused with the Galaxy Cauldron. The very nature of the Galaxy Cauldron is that if anything touches, it it will not only erasue you from existence, it will erase you from every existence. Chaos was able to resist this nature and fuse with this. Silver Moon Crystal Eternal Power weakened and diminished Chaos and erased him.

Now with all this:

Plus time travel,, multi-universal range, the ability to cut across time and space, (send attacks and power through out time), Cosmos Reset. Possiblity creation, fate manipualtion. I say she can take this.
 
According to Matthew's revision, Aiolos needed the 9th Sense to defeat Zeus in Aiolia's body. Since Seiya at his best would also have the 9th Sense and matched Apollo, he should have the ability to fight with people on that kind of level.

In Episode G: Assassins Seiya returns to fight one of the Holy Sword users and he's able to regain his strength through the course of the battle. Athena arrived and gave him a boost that allowed him to re-create his God Cloth and strike down his opponent with infinite Miracles. As far as Assassins has detailed, he's gotten over his curse by Hades.

That's also adding that Seiya with the 9th Sense could possibly do the same kind of physics ignoring mess that other Olympian Gods are capable of doing.

As far as Power Negation goes, does she need to hit the opponent or is it like a ranged sealing?

Seiya has dealt with existing in Hades' Hyperdimension that atomizes and erases any non-divine being due to having Athena's Ichor on him. The erasure of Hades' sword would count in this category as well.

Seiya has Acausality so Time Travel, sending attacks through time, and Fate Manipulation won't really be effective.

If Seiya sees these techniques of course, remember that they become ineffective immediately afterwards. Using attacks that he's already resistant to only really raises his chances of victory.
 
Quick question, but doesn't Mid-Godly regen in Sailor Moon takes forever, tho? I kind of remember that being the case for Chaos.

Are there scans of someone coming back from Nothing in a reasonable ammount of time?

I'm more asking than claiming.
 
Power Nullfication is ranged.

As for Acausality saving him from sending attack through time. I don't think so. The point of being ablt to travel through time and send attacks across time, means that Sailor Moon has just a better range.

Acausality would save Seiya if Sailor Moon killed his past self. But if Sailor Moon traveled to the past or present where Seiya coudln't reach him and was able to luanch attacks from there to attack him in the present. It has more to do with range than actually time shenagigans. it's also gives Sailor Moon a good place to retreat and collect her thoughts and plan out more attacks.


@fate Regernation is instantenous with the Lmabda power. Reincarnation is what takes forever. Chaos didn't regnerate after he was erased but it took an indefeinite time for him to be reincarnated as Sailor Chaos.
 
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding but where in there does it confirm that she was erased from existence?

Even the very character confirms that she was alive/stopped at the last second.
 
I mean, that kinda implies she wasn't erased from existence and came back right after as much as it implies she never did get erased.
 
It is said that it has been regenerating later

In act 59 galaxya throws the star seeds of the solar system guardians to the cauldroalong with tuxedo mask (the star seeds are the souls and evrything for a being in the sm verse (if i'm not mistaken huhuhu)), they get lost forever, in fact, after tuxedo mask was lost into the cauldron Chibimoon (sailor moon + tuxedo's daughter) vanishes. Fight ensues, moon wins by activating the lambda power.

Then in act 60, sailor moon throws herself into the cauldron and just like the rest of the team she vanishes in it, by doing that, all of the star seeds once lost inside the cauldro are reborn trough sailor moon's lambda power .

Later in the chapter, moon&friends encounter the cosmos fairy, the guardian of the cosmos crystalwho explains that even "perfect shining stars" will become nothing inside of the cauldro, she then asks moon what she wants and she sais to live life with these persons , she then gets married , fin.
 
I'll be quite frank, this is looking like either not related to Cosmos by herself or outright resistance to Existence Erasure or that she was never actually erased instead of Mid-Godly.

But I'll be re-reading the chapter in question to draw a conclusion out of this as I'm not concerned about the winner.
 
Ok so reading through it the situation is as follows as they have:

1. Been reduced to ridiculously small parts and scattered throughout the cauldron rather than entirely erased from existence, a statement that comes both from Sailor and Guardian Cosmos in regards to the senshi. Moon points out that she was pushed back in the last moment too. Moon also points out that she can feel everyone's power within the Cauldron when she jumps there (in the very scan you posted above so not reposting that one).

2. Cosmos outright states it wasn't the power of Eternal Sailor Moon, who she had just said surpassed her own that was capable of bringing people back but rather that of the Cauldron itself.

3. She also states no one can destroy the cauldron or has power to, meaning it was never erased from existence. She goes on to state Eternal Sailor Moon is the new Sailor Cosmos. Take into account, this is again, the character she just stated was not responsible for bringing people back but rather the Galaxy/the Cauldron itself.

4. Sailor Moon states she was pushed back at the last second. They also state she kept calling out for them through her power
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. Earlier Cosmos states that the Lambda Effect through the Cosmos Crystal which is all of their powers combined also has a role on this.
5. Guardian Cosmos says that within the Cauldron all stars are in their perfected forms rather than "they don't exist". It's also said to be the birthplace of everything rather than some full on "Erases everything" - it breaks things and makes them into parts too small to ever be found again - thus "vanishing" as seen with Chaos and stated by Guardian Cosmos again here in the last scan.

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Buuut, as I know people might want to be debating that and the matter does not concern me at all, I'll be letting others draw their own conclusions out of this.

Rather you want to say she has Mid-Godly regen or not or that these points are debatable, is no concern of mine.

Just providing clarification on the circumstances of the feat is all. Whoever wins this, I'm fine with it.
 
She disappeared into ridiculously small parts of herself into the cauldron.

That's what Guardian Cosmos and Sailor Cosmos says that happens when you fall into the cauldron.

They don't vanish completely from existence, they are smoldered within. It's the same thing that happened with Chaos. As I said feel free to interpret it however you want but I particularly don't see sufficient stuff to back up this "erased from existence entirely" and "regenerated from nothing" you are bringing up.
 
Ah, so that's what you meant on the sending attacks through time. Wouldn't she have to use some sort of portal or something to send the attacks through to the present. If you could better explain the context on how that works, that'd be great.

As far as Seiya is concerned, he would still gain resistances to the attacks she sends through one by one until they're not effective anymore. He can also cancel out attacks by sending a barrage of Pegasus Comet Fists in order to either negate the attack or block it from reaching him.
 
she did not fall into the cauldron, Her father fell into the cauldron and died, as she comes from the future, she disappeared from existence because she is not born
 
Not really. Sailor Cosmos (not the one Eternal Sailor Moon becomes) outright says the Lambda power exceed her own and comes from every single Sailor Senshi, Moon included, combined WAY later when Chaos is already defeated and Eternal S Moon jumped into the Cauldron to meld with all others or something to that effect.

So she definitely isn't using Lambda power.

TPI at best.
 
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