Zeno vs. March 7th

[GarrixianXD]

Standard Battle Assumptions and speed is equalised; Xianzhou Luofu Arc March 7th is used.

Zeno's profile

March's profile

 

[Woomica]

I am 1000% sure she would pick him up and hold him like baby than to fight him

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Why march instead of other stronger HSR chars

 

[GarrixianXD]

Why march instead of other stronger HSR chars

Everyone loves every other character over her except for me

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

so like um uh um uhhhhh ummm huh idk zeno rises his hands gg? or march 7th does the goku strat and befriends

 

[GarrixianXD]

so like um uh um uhhhhh ummm huh idk zeno rises his hands gg?

Imaginary Energy contains space-time and information erasure; its just not listed on March's profile, but she does resist it. Imaginary Energy is 1-A+; I doubt Zeno's EE will be remotely effective.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Imaginary Energy contains space-time and information erasure; its just not listed on March's profile, but she does resist it. Imaginary Energy is 1-A+; I doubt Zeno's EE will be remotely effective.

I am more wondering what Wincon March has since I can't see anyone when just looking over her profile?

 

[GarrixianXD]

I am more wondering what Wincon March has since I can't see anyone when just looking over her profile?

She can continuously incap with her ice powers I think.

 

[Arkansalter2]

If Zeno can't erase 7th, then 7th will just win because Zeno can't H2H for s***.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

She can continuously incap with her ice powers I think.

Hmmm, That is definitely an idea, but would Zeno not just be able to erase the ice incaping him?

Either way, Zeno lacks any win con, so it would be a draw at least...

If Zeno can't erase 7th, then 7th will just win because Zeno can't H2H for s***.

She is too weak, her physical attacks can't harm Zeno.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

March can't just incapacitate Zeno with her Six-Phased Ice? This ice adheres to the Imaginary Law, which currently is 1-A+ in potency due to the Imaginary Space and Imaginary Tree stuff

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

March can't just incapacitate Zeno with her Six-Phased Ice? This ice adheres to the Imaginary Law, which currently is 1-A+ in potency due to the Imaginary Space and Imaginary Tree stuff

I wish stuff like that was on her profile...


Then yeah, My vote is currently on March, for @GarrixianXD reasons

 

[Woomica]

I wish stuff like that was on her profile...


Then yeah, My vote is currently on an incon, for @GarrixianXD reasons

there is lol (if thats what you looking for) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/March_7th#:~:text=Ice Manipulation &,damage over time)

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

there is lol (if thats what you looking for) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/March_7th#:~:text=Ice Manipulation &,damage over time)

I want you to say where on the profile the 1-A+ is.

 

[BoastJr]

Ice incap Fra

 

[Enter_Bluey]

If this was made in mind that zenos one thing, Erasure, is not gonna work then yeah lol I assume the 1-A+ smurf hax will make this a decisive incap. Maybe if Zeno had any feats of h2h whatsoever to try and avoid it but nah

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Uh... I truly don't think we can give the 1-A+ stuff as reasons for March winning without it being on the profile

 

[Ebihara]

Uh... I truly don't think we can give the 1-A+ stuff as reasons for March winning without it being on the profile

agreed, like a 1/3rd of threads are "they have x" "well its not on there profile" feels the same here. Cant give them the win for somthing that isnt on there profile.

 

[Shiroiyo]

It isn't on the pages because it is noted on the verse page.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

"Emanators and Pathstriders are typically mortals whose been granted the permission to draw power from the Paths from their respective Aeon, but are vastly inferior to their Aeon, therefore, various of their powers, abilities and resistances scale to 1-A+ in hax potency through drawing power from their respective Paths"

... Whelp. Yeah um, if March's freezing hax is the result of her Path, then yeah Zeno gets bodied.

 

[Ebihara]

stomp for march then?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Ice incap Fra

Incaping your opponent counts as a wincon in SBA

Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions.

I bolded the relevant part.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

this is stomp, like what can do Zeno here?

 

[BoastJr]

this is stomp, like what can do Zeno here?

I mean the profile lists Zeno having low complex striking strength so there is that ?

Striking Strength: Low Complex Multiverse level

He could maybe (according to the profile on Vsbw) just headbutt her

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Then it would come down to which would likely happen first ? Zeno pulling off a finger flick or March freezing him.

 

[GarrixianXD]

March's ice powers will still fly as a projectile. Nothing is preventing Zeno from firing a ki blast though.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

This match is inconclusive, Zeno can kill her away with any casual gesture or March can freeze hax him if he underestimate her

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

This match was definitely made with the before hand knowledge that Zeno has no solid wincons, so either honkai chicken number 55 or incon

 

[StrymULTRA]

Nothing is preventing Zeno from firing a ki blast though.

Zeno doesn't use these.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Incon then. Superior LS means that Zeno will be able to break free from 7ths Ice Powers and Zeno can't erase 7th due to Space-Time resistance.

 

[BoastJr]

I do not think Zeno can fire a Basic Ki Blast ? Well I never seen him use any Basic Ki based attacks but he has this

• Erase (消けす): The ability to destroy anything via twin-charged blue balls of energy.

Which takes time to charge mind you. It is better (If I am not misreading anything) if Zeno just materialises his giant hands like he did here and try to crush her from a distance. March's lack of AoE won't stop it regardless of potency.

The starting distance (speed equalised) and March's range disadvantage helps even things out more As Zeno would still have the starting move.

Anyways I do not think its a stomp as long as Zeno has options.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Goku for reasons FRA

(Though that hand thing is assume Zeno does it in combat. There is a range disadvantage I guess)

 

[BoastJr]

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So True !

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Zeno doesn't have any LS. The Class Y only comes from Flicking Planets with the Giant Hands he materialises but it doesn't seem to correlate to his base physical stats.

March unironically has better LS here atleast Base to Base.

 

[Vietthai96]

Iirc, currently his erasure that he used on Infinite Zamasu is also treated as ki blast, so it similar to Hakai which the energy can both cause damage and erase thing, so if Zeno use the erasure version that he used on IZ, March is dead. If not he get incapped, so i vote incon

 

[BoastJr]

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There is that yes but it is not likely to work as I have pointed out before.

Zeno does not have much luxury in terms of starting distance (4 Kilometres) and it takes quite some time for him to even fully charge his Erasure attack (enough for Goku to head to the time machine and escape the timeline being blown up).

Zeno using this version of Erasure is also not likely as he wouldn't view March as an immediate threat such as IZ. That is the equivalent of arguing Boros using CSRC immediately at the start of a fight.

But I do not know if Zeno is capable of using a faster albeit weaker form of it given the lack of any Ki Based attacks he used.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Yeah, I don't think Zeno is going to treat March 7th as an obvious abomination like Zamasu.

 

[Vietthai96]

it takes quite some time for him to even fully charge his Erasure attack

Nah, it take time cause he need to dramatically fly up high, the moment he open his palm, the "blast" is released

enough for Goku to head to the time machine and escape the timeline being blown up

No, Goku predict first hand that Zeno gonna erase shit, that why he urge Bulma and Trunks, Mai into the time machine, Shin and Gowasu travel back via Time Ring, Goku and Vegeta don't even have time, they both hel onto the outside of the machine lol

Anyway even if we think he need to charge March will not know what he gonna do, she has no prior knowledges on what Zeno can do and how his power work or look like, so if giveb the chance Zeno still can charge up his suppose blast. Goku predict first hand cause he has some prior knowledge of what Zeno can do, and he did announced he going to destroy the world cause IZ being annoyed him.

So anyway, both March and Zeno do not have knowledge on each others, SBA still force them to fight so March probably start with her generic arrows, Zeno will use the erasure version he used in ToP to erase defeated universe, both moves from both sides didn't work against each others, they gonna use other abilities, so that incon come from. Anyway this match up is bad ngl

 

[Ebihara]

i vote incon FRA

 

[RenderGK]

Incon FRA