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Zenless Zone Zero Discussion Thread

BiggestOpp said:
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Pillar is 116m in diameter or 58.28m in radius.

Pillar traveled up 15.77m
Height of the sliced portion is 44.31m.
Volume of cylinder= 4.73×10^5-78.3501574105=472,921.65m3
Density of stainless steel is 8000kgm3
Mass=3783373200kg

The pillar launched up in 3 frames if you include impact frames as movement
3/24=0.125s
Speed=126.16m/s.
KE= 30108737692489J or 7.19kilotons

7-C
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This is cool but isnt this also like the 3rd calc that is 7-C now?? We are never getting to/past High 7-C mann

....or at least rn that we are in the Pre "ZZZ Season 3: Phaethon's Awakening" era
 
255,157,680.363/333,507,837.773 = 76.5% of its volume that's not hollow

So you could just multiply that value although those extra bits at the top would add more weight. This calculation specifically uses the volume with the sword width as the height. I think you can use the values in the calc to derive the actual height tho
 
It really depends on where the cut happens, we've already had the diameter established but not the height of the upper part of the building
 
I'll check later where the cut could happen

Also just checking Miyabi and Yixuan's profiles and for being equals in lore Miyabi's been taking 4 Ls and only 1 W while Yixuan's been only getting dubs 😭 Some of them aren't there anymore since they were in 8-A
 
Naito-desu said:
I'll check later where the cut could happen

Also just checking Miyabi and Yixuan's profiles and for being equals in lore Miyabi's been taking 4 Ls and only 1 W while Yixuan's been only getting dubs 😭 Some of them aren't there anymore since they were in 8-A
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Yixuan got corruption slop
 
Naito-desu said:
I'll check later where the cut could happen

Also just checking Miyabi and Yixuan's profiles and for being equals in lore Miyabi's been taking 4 Ls and only 1 W while Yixuan's been only getting dubs 😭 Some of them aren't there anymore since they were in 8-A
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kinda just what happens when you're a stat brick unfortunately lol. yixuan has good hax/abilities, miyabi is a stat brick and shunguang is somewhere in between the two
 
Sooshirohl said:
kinda just what happens when you're a stat brick unfortunately lol. yixuan has good hax/abilities, miyabi is a stat brick and shunguang is somewhere in between the two
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In other words Yixuan is outright stronger and better than Miyabi, so its no wonder she got skin first
 
Naito-desu said:
I'll check later where the cut could happen

Also just checking Miyabi and Yixuan's profiles and for being equals in lore Miyabi's been taking 4 Ls and only 1 W while Yixuan's been only getting dubs 😭 Some of them aren't there anymore since they were in 8-A
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There's technically one incon but it's from a tourney format so it's not applicable
 
Sooshirohl said:
to be fair being able to contend against people with VH weapons purely off of your own skill + techniques is extremely impressive

obviously not saying miyabi is carried by tailless or shungus is carried by the qingming sword but the weapons certainly are powerful additions on top of their own skill
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"Shungus" I'm sorry but why make her sound like a msuhroom/fungus/whatever it was called in english XDDD
 
Sooshirohl said:
to be fair being able to contend against people with VH weapons purely off of your own skill + techniques is extremely impressive

obviously not saying miyabi is carried by tailless or shungus is carried by the qingming sword but the weapons certainly are powerful additions on top of their own skill
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Outside of just being a void hunter level fighter, what has she done?
NOT SHIT.
Miyabi is THE weapon.
Yixuan is a BUM.
So much so that devs had to make her fight Miyabi to prove her worth.
Cus she has 0 FEATS.
 
BiggestOpp said:
Outside of just being a void hunter level fighter, what has she done?
NOT SHIT.
Miyabi is THE weapon.
Yixuan is a BUM.
So much so that devs had to make her fight Miyabi to prove her worth.
Cus she has 0 FEATS.
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HEY be nice to her, Season 2 is still new and she's powerful im sure she'll get something!!! ..or maybe in Season 3...... or 4...........
 
While we're talking about feats,
This feat during the Miasma Priest fight has been of interest to Masked.
If Masked was better at calculations,
They would attempt to find the KE from the dispersal of this Miasma dome.
It's not as much mass as the Miasma Ball feat, but the velocity is much higher.
Sooshirohl said:
i see, didn't know that could also apply to LS. that's cool, though i wonder if it'd get a higher value than the yixuan miasma ball feat
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It's debatable.
Masked still can't tell whether this would be Striking Strength or Lifting Strength
 
Also helps that Yixuan can fly and got suction on her attacks. Imo, even without Corruption, Yixuan just utilizes ZZZ's best traits in her kit. Miyabi's like, just another Vergil-like.
 
Naito-desu said:
Also helps that Yixuan can fly and got suction on her attacks. Imo, even without Corruption, Yixuan just utilizes ZZZ's best traits in her kit. Miyabi's like, just another Vergil-like.
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both of her Ws on her page were won without even needing to rely on ether corruption lol. both of the opponents she fought resisted most of the effects of ether corruption, the rest of her kit is just that useful when she has cracked mobility, solid H2H skill, the ability to spam energy attacks, create forcefields, absorb and purify energy, power null, etc etc.
 
MaskedDragon908 said:
This feat during the Miasma Priest fight has been of interest to Masked.
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Given that's a an in-game map, just measure Yixuan next to it and get a hemispheric volume and use water like before for the mass. Estimate the velocity I guess by how far the ether travels on-screen and then use the formula below:

(1/20) * m * v^2

Which yeah, much more stacked against her so I doubt it's gonna break 7-C
 
Sooshirohl said:
both of her Ws on her page were won without even needing to rely on ether corruption lol. both of the opponents she fought resisted most of the effects of ether corruption, the rest of her kit is just that useful when she has cracked mobility, solid H2H skill, the ability to spam energy attacks, create forcefields, absorb and purify energy, power null, etc etc.
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what character do you really see her going extreme diff? cuz that's a pretty above average stats for a 7-C (which is where someone like most of the prominent profiles are).
 
BiggestOpp said:
Damn, why not?
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Because the pillar shot up as a result of ap/striking strength (in this case her swinging her sword). She didn't move the blade up to life the piece up physically. She just swung so hard it blasted up. The LS rules are a tad bit more rigid than that. It would be like getting LS from someone sending a building flying past the horizon with a punch or kick.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Because the pillar shot up as a result of ap/striking strength (in this case her swinging her sword). She didn't move the blade up to life the piece up physically. She just swung so hard it blasted up. The LS rules are a tad bit more rigid than that. It would be like getting LS from someone sending a building flying past the horizon with a punch or kick.
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So the difference between someone getting lifting strength from a punch is opening their palm?
It’s all the same shit is it not? If someone throws something they’re literally just moving their arm and moving it.
Maybe im a dumbass idk
 
BiggestOpp said:
So the difference between someone getting lifting strength from a punch is opening their palm?
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They would not get LS from a palm strike either.
BiggestOpp said:
It’s all the same shit is it not? If someone throws something they’re literally just moving their arm and moving it.
Maybe im a dumbass idk
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This is smth alread addressed on the vs wiki LS page IIRC. Throwing stuff is okay for LS due to the type of motion and interaction, duration of contact, and because it uses muscle groups much more comparable to the muscle groups used for lifting. Punching doesn't. If you could calc LS from AP, every character would have LS fitting of their tier which they clearly don't. Goku and Vegeta would have get Immeasurable LS for having Tier 2 SS. Obviously you can't do that.
 
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