Zenless Zone Zero Discussion Thread

[Baken384]

let all void hunters fight with great animations and not tell ye shunguang

 

[Sooshirohl]

let all void hunters fight with great animations and not tell ye shunguang

we got robbed of a yixuan vs. shunguang demo so bad man

 

[Naito-desu]

There's a fan animation that pretty much fills the void but I wish ZZZ indulged us

Feats-wise the most impressive thing might be the cut she did with the boulder

 

[Sooshirohl]

There's a fan animation that pretty much fills the void but I wish ZZZ indulged us

Feats-wise the most impressive thing might be the cut she did with the boulder

from the looks of it it seems a little hard to gauge the full size of the boulder but it looked absolutely massive

also it looked like she just straight up stopped time before she cut it in half?

 

[Hizack123]

Another sad demo for Void hunters

 

[Sooshirohl]

remielle was also doing this shit with her energy beams which i'd say also seems very impressive

 

[LaserPrecision]

The rock splits only seems like 8-A tbh (Could be 8-B).

remielle was also doing this shit with her energy beams which i'd say also seems very impressive

This seems decent tho. Worth calculating, but might be difficult to get the size of every chunk flying out of the ground since they're further in the bg than the girl.

 

[Sooshirohl]

ok idk what the hell is happening here but like it looks insanely impressive

also how do we feel about this feet, from the looks of it it seems like sunbringer collapsed a hollow down and made that giant crater as a result

 

[LaserPrecision]

also how do we feel about this feet, from the looks of it it seems like sunbringer collapsed a hollow down and made that giant crater as a result

Idk how big the ball is. Could be any tier without a frame of reference. If the ball's bigger than a person then I think at least 8-A+, could be Low 7-C

 

[BiggestOpp]

Hoyo with these janky as shots. Can’t scale shit with some of these scenes.

 

[Naito-desu]

Our peak feat being from a non-Void Hunter, son I'm crine

I'll take a deeper look when I have the time and see if we can work an estimate or a range

 

[BiggestOpp]

***** so ass, I think I got a little sum but I’d need yall to tell me whether it works or not.

 

[BiggestOpp]

In this scene you can see in the parts circled that these lines are present. It looks similar to something I’ve seen throughout the game (like that specific structure is recognizable), but I don’t know for sure.

Those lines could be this one shown here.

Or these shown around these buildings.

It could be neither, I don’t know. Assuming the line is as wide as Sunbringer is tall (1.7m????), makes the total width of the first destroyed area like 90m.

There’s another shot where you can see an object that looks like a building of some sort poking off a rock.

But idk if it’s a building or not.

I quickly skimmed through it and that’s what I found, maybe there’s something I missed

 

[Naito-desu]

In this scene you can see in the parts circled that these lines are present. It looks similar to something I’ve seen throughout the game (like that specific structure is recognizable), but I don’t know for sure.

Those lines could be this one shown here.

Or these shown around these buildings.

It could be neither, I don’t know. Assuming the line is as wide as Sunbringer is tall (1.7m????), makes the total width of the first destroyed area like 90m.

There’s another shot where you can see an object that looks like a building of some sort poking off a rock.

But idk if it’s a building or not.

I quickly skimmed through it and that’s what I found, maybe there’s something I missed

Honestly this is just those platforms you see in Shiyu so it wouldn't be unreasonable they're the same given they're probably fighting in a similar area and the perk is that we've already scaled the size of the tiles in previous calcs

 

[BiggestOpp]

Great.

 

[BiggestOpp]

This hole pink hair made in the boulder is far bigger than her wingspan.

That same hole is very minuscule compared to total height of the boulder.

Maybe someone can find the pixel size of shot to find the total height of the boulder.
I guess that could be used for width too?

For the length I guess you could angsize this cus Sunbringer’s head is still visible down the middle.
And considering it kept extending after this shot maybe you can get the speed it took to reach this frame, and multiply it by the rest of the time it spent extending to find the length. Dk if that’s valid or not tho.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Idk how big the ball is. Could be any tier without a frame of reference. If the ball's bigger than a person then I think at least 8-A+, could be Low 7-C

it should definitely be bigger than a person even when it got compressed but i think it'd just be hard to gauge it's size without any way of properly measuring it

there's this follow-up shot of sunbringer seemingly standing right in the center of the crater so i was thinking you might be able to use this to try and gauge how large it is but not sure if that'd be valid or not

 

[Naito-desu]

@BiggestOpp how worth is it to save W-Engine chips for Sharpened Stinger? I wanna get Jane Doe's Sig for her since she's currently on the 5-star Rainforest Gourmet

 

[LaserPrecision]

it should definitely be bigger than a person even when it got compressed but i think it'd just be hard to gauge it's size without any way of properly measuring it

there's this follow-up shot of sunbringer seemingly standing right in the center of the crater so i was thinking you might be able to use this to try and gauge how large it is but not sure if that'd be valid or not

The crater looks way different from the shot I've seen before, it's hard to tell. The crater looks a different shape now.

 

[BiggestOpp]

@BiggestOpp how worth is it to save W-Engine chips for Sharpened Stinger? I wanna get Jane Doe's Sig for her since she's currently on the 5-star Rainforest Gourmet

It’s worth it if you can properly keep the buff up. With her new buff it’s easier to do that so I’d say go for it.

 

[Sooshirohl]

The crater looks way different from the shot I've seen before, it's hard to tell. The crater looks a different shape now.

dang, that's kind of the only good shot we see of it directly outside of the initial shot of it, but unless you could find a way to accurately measure the size of the hollow then i'm not really sure how you'd get a good gauge of the crater's size

from there i assume all you'd need to do is use the measurement of the buildings as a reference in order to find the hollow's height and diameter. then once you find the diameter of the hollow you can just utilize the in-game map and use the hollow diameter as a reference to gauge the size of other hollows and the distance between certain areas of the map

my only other guess on how you could try to get the crater's size is to measure out other hollows to maybe find an average size and use that as a reference for the hollow in the MV, but i dunno

what's with this game and making these feats overly complicated to reference man

 

[LaserPrecision]

what's with this game and making these feats overly complicated to reference man

W game creators trying to prevent powerscaling brainrot?????

dang, that's kind of the only good shot we see of it directly outside of the initial shot of it, but unless you could find a way to accurately measure the size of the hollow then i'm not really sure how you'd get a good gauge of the crater's size

Send me the cutscene, I'll see if I can work smth out.

 

[Sooshirohl]

The crater looks way different from the shot I've seen before, it's hard to tell. The crater looks a different shape now.

dang, that's kind of the only good shot we see of it directly outside of the initial shot of it, but unless you could find a way to accurately measure the size of the hollow then i'm not really sure how you'd get a good gauge of the crater's size

W game creators trying to prevent powerscaling brainrot?????

Send me the cutscene, I'll see if I can work smth out.

right around the 20 second mark

 

[LaserPrecision]

right around the 20 second mark

Wow, this one is hard asf

 

[BiggestOpp]

Naw it’s easy lemme brain storm rq

 

[BiggestOpp]

Well the hollow was above the clouds and minimal cloud to ground height is 1km sooo.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Well the hollow was above the clouds and minimal cloud to ground height is 1km sooo.

Those clouds look more like fog, and they are unrealistically close to the ground

 

[BiggestOpp]

Fog don’t look like this twinlet

It doesn’t ever look close to the ground to me.
Maybe from the crater shot? I’m pretty sure it’s cus it’s a big ass crater.
You can’t even see none of the gigantic rumble that’s falling around it in the wide range shot.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Fog don’t look like this twinlet

It doesn’t ever look close to the ground to me.
Maybe from the crater shot? I’m pretty sure it’s cus it’s a big ass crater.
You can’t even see none of the gigantic rumble that’s falling around it in the wide range shot.

Have you never seen thick fog from above? It looks almost identical:

This is also consistent with the fact that before the fog was dispersed, everything looked muggy, dark, and hard to see. But after dispersing it, everything was clear.

Also, they are clearly ground level because you can see the outer layer of the crater literally in front of the fog which wouldn't be possible if it didn't reach surface level:

And it's clearly not a crater that extends numerous kilometers into the air because then we would've seen it when she was walking away in the aftermath of the crater, yet we don't. Nothing there at all looks several kilometers in the air.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I also want to say if we assume those are clouds over a kilometer in the air, the crater would easily be far into Tier 6. The crater would literally be 10s of Kilometers. You could get 6-B smth, but that's clearly far beyond the scope of the rest of the verse. I would've mentioned those first if I thought the "clouds" there worked.

 

[BiggestOpp]

Have you never seen thick fog from above? It looks almost identical:

Also looks like clouds from above.

This is also consistent with the fact that before the fog was dispersed, everything looked muggy, dark, and hard to see. But after dispersing it, everything was clear.

Because thick clouds were covering the sky?
On second thoughts, is Sunbringer inside the hollow? She’s fighting ethereals.

Also, they are clearly ground level because you can see the outer layer of the crater literally in front of the fog which wouldn't be possible if it didn't reach surface level:

And it's clearly not a crater that extends numerous kilometers into the air because then we would've seen it when she was walking away in the aftermath of the crater, yet we don't. Nothing there at all looks several kilometers in the air.

When the clouds group up they stack ontop of each other so some of the cloud touched the ground.

 

[Sooshirohl]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sooshirohl/ZZZ_:_Sunbringer_Collapses_a_Hollow

an attempt was made

 

[LaserPrecision]

Also looks like clouds from above.

Sure, the point is you can't use the argument "they don't look like fog" when there is fog that looks like that. That alone isn't evidence for it being clouds or fog, it was just to show you made a hasty argument.

Because thick clouds were covering the sky?
On second thoughts, is Sunbringer inside the hollow? She’s fighting ethereals.

Idk anything about ZZZ, I don't play it, so I don't know the lore on hollows, ethereals, etc.

And I mentioned fog because when Sunbringer sent that bird out or whatever it clearly flew through thick fog, and that thing definitely didn't fly over a kilometer in the air just from eyeballing.

When the clouds group up they stack ontop of each other so some of the cloud touched the ground.

Clouds don't stack on top of each other and push clouds lower, that doesn't make sense. Clouds physically can't form that low nor can they sustain that due to how clouds are made. The atmosphere is too high at ground level for them to ever be pushed down like that. And if they stacked, they would stack on top of each other, not below each other (tho even that would have a limit, but that limit is nowhere near pushed in the clip so that would be possible).

 

[BiggestOpp]

Sure, the point is you can't use the argument "they don't look like fog" when there is fog that looks like that. That alone isn't evidence for it being clouds or fog, it was just to show you made a hasty argument.

Idk anything about ZZZ, I don't play it, so I don't know the lore on hollows, ethereals, etc.

And I mentioned fog because when Sunbringer sent that bird out or whatever it clearly flew through thick fog, and that thing definitely didn't fly over a kilometer in the air just from eyeballing.

Clouds don't stack on top of each other and push clouds lower, that doesn't make sense. Clouds physically can't form that low nor can they sustain that due to how clouds are made. The atmosphere is too high at ground level for them to ever be pushed down like that. And if they stacked, they would stack on top of each other, not below each other (tho even that would have a limit, but that limit is nowhere near pushed in the clip so that would be possible).

Reasonable. So fog it is.

Just still weird for me. The hollow in the sky was actually 10 feet above the ground ig.

 

[BiggestOpp]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sooshirohl/ZZZ_:_Sunbringer_Collapses_a_Hollow

an attempt was made

Wouldn’t this mean the hollow was inside the ground if the overlay is true?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Reasonable. So fog it is.

Just still weird for me. The hollow in the sky was actually 10 feet above the ground ig.

To be fair, the hollow (assuming that's the creature) didn't look that high in the sky. You can see its arms on a relative plane with Sunbringer. It's arms are prolly 10ish feet off the ground, but its main body which is a bit higher is prolly anywhere under 100 feet above? It's not absurdly high, but it's not super low either.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sooshirohl/ZZZ_:_Sunbringer_Collapses_a_Hollow

an attempt was made

This isn't bad, but it shouldn't use a hemispherical shape since for the depth it accounts for the conical frustum in the middle of the crater.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Wouldn’t this mean the hollow was inside the ground if the overlay is true?

i don't think hollows necessarily bury into the ground, they're kinda just domes that occupy whatever space they show up in

This isn't bad, but it shouldn't use a hemispherical shape since for the depth it accounts for the conical frustum in the middle of the crater.

i see. what would be a better way to get the crater's depth then?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Idk anything about ZZZ, I don't play it, so I don't know the lore on hollows, ethereals, etc.

wait why are you here then?

 

[BiggestOpp]

To be fair, the hollow (assuming that's the creature) didn't look that high in the sky. You can see its arms on a relative plane with Sunbringer. Its arms are prolly 10ish feet off the ground, but its main body which is a bit higher is prolly anywhere under 100 feet above? It's not absurdly high, but it's not super low either.

That creature is inside the hollow not surrounding it. The creature we see isn’t surrounding the actual hollow that’s not possible lol.
I’m confusing myself so much

 

[BiggestOpp]

i don't think hollows necessarily bury into the ground, they're kinda just domes that occupy whatever space they show up in

i see. what would be a better way to get the crater's depth then?

No I mean the hive mind hollow was specifically a hollow floating mid air. Like the entire sphere was in the air. Sunbringer’s name came from clearing the hollow in the sky.
Is that not the hive mind hollow in that video?