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Zeldris vs Ji Ning.
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Stop these threads 
What keys ?
Is Verse equilization applied?
Zel is getting upgraded to FTL
But is MH+ currently
What keys ?
Is Verse equilization applied?
Zel is getting upgraded to FTL
But is MH+ currently
YoutubeForKing
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Key 2 zeldris key 1 ningStop these threads
What keys ?
Is Verse equilization applied?
Zel is getting upgraded to FTL
But is MH+ currently
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When?
YoutubeForKing
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When FHOTA ends since they want to get everything before finishing the ctr.When?
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Soon By Asura will release the thread maybe by WednesdayWhen?
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We wait for the end of Meland fight (Which is finished normally With the chapter 76) to release completely my abilities related CRT
Scaling chains are waiting till Wednesday normally
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Also might be FTL+ but idk if He will scaleWhen?
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Going with the OP at 6-C God Zel is included
Does Ning use magic or anything similar ?
Does Ning use magic or anything similar ?
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We have gone through that before, no he doesn't.
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Could you please explain? What exactly stops Ning from shredding Zeldris entirely?
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Will block out the danmaku.
His suction also pulls in people with Class G as well like Ludoshel.
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For how long can he keep that up? Ning's danmaku doesn't drain his stamina.
Will block out the danmaku.
His suction also pulls in people with Class G as well like Ludoshel.
Also, Ning's danmaku is literally a natural rain where every drop is a blade, Zeldris' Full React has a lot of open spots that would allow for some drops to go through.
Also, unless that thing has some kind of absorption or whatever, it would have to withstand the attacks of each drop which isn't easy given the AP gap.
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It's unknown. We do know that in the entirety of the time he uses it, he never looks Fatigued.
How exactly is there alot of open holes? Do you have evidence for your assertion? Or has Ning's danmaku worked on something similar to full react?
Would it be wrong to assume the raindrops are magical? If so he's most likely immune to that.
If its physical he would be highly resistant to that. He'd only get overpowered by someone much stronger than him.
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Okay, but for how long did he keep it up non-stop? A few hours? A few days?
It literally isn't a perfect sphere around him in the page Arkenis sent.
Yes, that's completely wrong. Ning has no magic at all.
Okay, give me his AP and his scaling chain then.
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Isn't that what it looks like due to the threads spinning?
Anyway, if the rain can't get through he will have to tank each attack, so again I'd like to see his scaling chain.
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Sorry i did not remember then Zel can only null the natural elements He uses
If speed isn’t equalized Zel would blitz (Ning is MH) Zel is far higher with ON (He currently is FTL in fact but it’s not in profiles yet and will release soon)
We should wait till the upgrades cuz it will turn to a stomp From Zel
How would Ning kill him Here ?
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If the energy type is assumes to be the same then God and NE would null passively mbCould you please explain? What exactly stops Ning from shredding Zeldris entirely?
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No it pulls accepted Class T dudes (Diane calc)
Will block out the danmaku.
His suction also pulls in people with Class G as well like Ludoshel.
Destroyer types are null too by NE and god despite being natural elements
He can keep ON for a pretty long time never showing any sign of fatigue
Full react is IR it doesn’t really have open spots
ON can parry and withstand H 6-C dudes i don’t think it will be a big problem anyway since he’d null anyway
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Not on her page, don't bring it up.
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They’Ve said we can bring accepted calcs even though it’s not in page just like for accepted abilities
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About the stamina of Zeldris using ON, I think though we haven't seen his usage be extended like Ji Ning's use of rainmaku, we can still argue that Zeldris's stamina is on par with others in the story who can fight for hours on end and use some of their stronger abilities the entire time, so at the very least if needed Zeldris could keep up the ON for hours but I actually don't think he'd really need to given his use of darkness he could just create a barrier over his body to block out the rainmaku. I'm not too certain of Zeldris's chain scaling but looking at the ap difference between Ji Ning and Zeldris
Zeldris scales to
Zeldris ON is stronger than his base but unknown so I think overall Ji Ning will be able to pierce through his darkness.
Zeldris scales to
- The highest 6-C's like the Original Demon are scaled to be 6x stronger than the lowest 6-C's (25.2 Gigatons)
Zeldris ON is stronger than his base but unknown so I think overall Ji Ning will be able to pierce through his darkness.
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Hours ? It’s more like years muahahahah
They are getting nulled
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Zel would stop ON and get in range basically
Ning fleeing him would get Piety to kick in
The AP disadvantage wouldn’t be that great between 25 gigatons Far higher
And 50 gigatons giving he has enchantment that can amp his hits by at least 3 times up to 10times imo
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Here is What Speedster told me on my profile
Zeldris ON blocked attacks from the one escanor who has 200 gigatons also he scales to afternoon mael who likely scales to assault mode Meliodas
Zeldris ON blocked attacks from the one escanor who has 200 gigatons also he scales to afternoon mael who likely scales to assault mode Meliodas
- The 6-C+'s like Prime Assault Mode Meliodas are scaled to be 18x stronger than the lowest 6-C's (75.6 Gigatons)
- Ji range first key is only hundreds of meters Zeldris has way more range and hax like layered fear aura.
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so i saw people talking about how ji ning can't kill zeldris
but how can zeldris kill ji ning through low-high regeneration, or even touch him given what appears to be an incredible skill gap? zeldris has much higher range but it doesn't matter if ji ning can just avoid everything he throws out
but how can zeldris kill ji ning through low-high regeneration, or even touch him given what appears to be an incredible skill gap? zeldris has much higher range but it doesn't matter if ji ning can just avoid everything he throws out
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No? Ning is either MHS or MHS+, but i am sure the end being used here is MHS+ to make things fair... And Ning has his 10x speed amp anyway.
Proof? I didn't see anything like that on his profile.
So ON scales to 200 gigatons? Then as per the OP it is restricted as it says H6C is restricted.
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Ye
mid-High to Low Godly regen negation
speed difference/ON
How would He avoid someone far faster than him even With skills it won’t do everything especially when Zel get in range and use ON
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How much is the speed amp? Ning was already capable of dodging 10000 arrows that are far faster than him while he was still like, 8 years old?
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Zeldris has lots of speed amps too What is the value for Ning ?
Depending on if we wait for the upgrade Zel would get FTL to FTL+ rating so it would be a stomp
Going with the new accepted base BOS Mel calc we start over mach 3000 something and can upscale them through their multipliers
i was responding to the dude that said NNT characters comparable in terms of stamina or weaker can fight for hours i said years since Ban and Mel fought for years in purgatory
It’s just far higher but a H 6-C opponent can’t null it instantly
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Depends on if we wait for the upgrades i’ll try to search for the upgraded speed scaling amps are at least x2 for DM x2 for DM2 x3 for AM
And x3 up to x10 for destroyer type in AP
higher for ON in speed
far higher with Rage power
higher passively with negative energy that amps their stats and null magic/Natural elements
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Where is this on his page? I only know of mid-high not low godly
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Mid-High is for Hellblaze
Low Godly is for Hellblaze nullifying SD even though she has possible Low Godly regen
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so a possible? Isn't even listed on demon clan page I don't think we should even factor that into this.
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Yeah We should take the lowball
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AP scaling:
Meliodas = Mach 4415.5353339 (Massively Hypersonic+)
Demon Mel = Mach 8831.0706678 (Sub-Relativistic)
Unsealed Mel = > Mach 8831.0706678 (Sub-Relativistic)
Unsealed Demon 2nd Mark Mel = Mach 35324.2826712 (Sub-Relativistic+)
Vessel Tarmiel/Sariel = Mach 70648.5653424 (Relativistic)
Post-Revival Demon Mark/True Sariel and Tariel = Mach 141297.130685 (Relativistic)
Post-Revival Assault Mode/Ludoshel without Flash = Mach 282594.26137 (Relativistic)
Original Demon/True Ludoshel without Flash = Mach 565188.522739 (Relativistic+)
Zel Scale to Lightspeed Ludo in normal God state
Is FTL with ON
2x his FTL rating with DM2 ON
Far higher with rage power
- Post-Revival Base Meliodas = 10.25 Teratons (Country level)
- Vessel Tarmiel = 20.5 Teratons (Country level)
- Post-Revival 2nd Mark = 41 Teratons (Country level)
- Post-Revival Assault Mode = 82 Teratons (Country level+)
- True Ludoshel = 164 Teratons (Large Country level)
- Elizabeth = 328 Teratons (Large Country level)
- Post-Purgatory 2nd Mark = 1.312 Petatons (Continent level)
- Post-Purgatory Assault Mode/100% Deities = 2.624 Petatons (Continent level+)
- Britannia DK = 7.8725 Petatons (Multi-Continent level)
Meliodas = Mach 4415.5353339 (Massively Hypersonic+)
Demon Mel = Mach 8831.0706678 (Sub-Relativistic)
Unsealed Mel = > Mach 8831.0706678 (Sub-Relativistic)
Unsealed Demon 2nd Mark Mel = Mach 35324.2826712 (Sub-Relativistic+)
Vessel Tarmiel/Sariel = Mach 70648.5653424 (Relativistic)
Post-Revival Demon Mark/True Sariel and Tariel = Mach 141297.130685 (Relativistic)
Post-Revival Assault Mode/Ludoshel without Flash = Mach 282594.26137 (Relativistic)
Original Demon/True Ludoshel without Flash = Mach 565188.522739 (Relativistic+)
Zel Scale to Lightspeed Ludo in normal God state
Is FTL with ON
2x his FTL rating with DM2 ON
Far higher with rage power
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We should cancel this thread since none of Zel’s forms will be Island lvl
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