Who should win: One Character vs 3 verses
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Zeedmillieniumon vs all of PMMM, Undertale and Majutsu no Index
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Creators like Toryama are not allowed (PMMM's creator didn't appear in the series)
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These verses has 2-A tier
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Sealed Zeed/Unsealed Zeed low-end are being used?
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Omnipresent isn't much greater than Immeasurable, and Zeed has fought Omnipresent beings before (albeit, in his unsealed state).
I don't have the time to give a solid opinion but for Zeed, you have to think of the sheer scale of his tier. He's not just a two headed Dragon who can destroy an infinite Multiverse. He's a two headed Dragon who overpowered the majority of the 2-A Royal Knights in combat (one shotting most of them) and thus is immensely superior to the Mother Eater, who can effortlessly rewrite time and space on a Multiversal+ scale in order to remove sadness from all worlds.
Not only that, but he was called the single greatest threat to the Digial World by Homeostasis, a being with "Infinite Knowledge" and thus should be far above the true form of Lucemon, who is infinitely superior to a 2-A incarnation of Lucemon and rivals the might of God himself (maybe hyperbole).
I don't have the time to give a solid opinion but for Zeed, you have to think of the sheer scale of his tier. He's not just a two headed Dragon who can destroy an infinite Multiverse. He's a two headed Dragon who overpowered the majority of the 2-A Royal Knights in combat (one shotting most of them) and thus is immensely superior to the Mother Eater, who can effortlessly rewrite time and space on a Multiversal+ scale in order to remove sadness from all worlds.
Not only that, but he was called the single greatest threat to the Digial World by Homeostasis, a being with "Infinite Knowledge" and thus should be far above the true form of Lucemon, who is infinitely superior to a 2-A incarnation of Lucemon and rivals the might of God himself (maybe hyperbole).
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Madoka/Homura can potentially solo.
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Ends with the magic gods chilling in non-existence ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That aside Madoka is accepted as conceptual entity? In that case I see her being hard to get rid of. (btw. thread maker should clarify that Zeed is treated as witch here if he wants Madoka to be involved in this fight...)
That aside Madoka is accepted as conceptual entity? In that case I see her being hard to get rid of. (btw. thread maker should clarify that Zeed is treated as witch here if he wants Madoka to be involved in this fight...)
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^Shouldn't verse equalization get rid of that minor problem tho?
Anyways, DT is correct, the magic gods kill them.
If not, and if the UT and Aru characters are reasonable, Homura just absorbs everyone's powers, takes on Zeed that way. (Assuming there are enough 2-A characters here to keep Zeed distracted while she does that.)
Anyways, DT is correct, the magic gods kill them.
If not, and if the UT and Aru characters are reasonable, Homura just absorbs everyone's powers, takes on Zeed that way. (Assuming there are enough 2-A characters here to keep Zeed distracted while she does that.)
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Well, there really aren't any impressive comparisions in regards to the magic gods. They are the only 2-A in the verse and are more or less equal to each other.
They can change the laws of nature, spiritualism and math, though, which I think are relatively decent abilities to have.
The remark "Ends with the magic gods chilling in non-existence" has a reason, though. One problem characters have against the magic gods is that magic gods can enter and exist in non-existent places. So if a character isn't able to influence such places the magic gods quickly just end up outside of their area of influence.
Note that the difference between existent and non-existent is really one of nature and not dimensions. Or at least the non-existent places are not part of the 11-D world that to arus physical world consists of.
They can change the laws of nature, spiritualism and math, though, which I think are relatively decent abilities to have.
The remark "Ends with the magic gods chilling in non-existence" has a reason, though. One problem characters have against the magic gods is that magic gods can enter and exist in non-existent places. So if a character isn't able to influence such places the magic gods quickly just end up outside of their area of influence.
Note that the difference between existent and non-existent is really one of nature and not dimensions. Or at least the non-existent places are not part of the 11-D world that to arus physical world consists of.
uh high 2a is 5 dimensional so 5 dimensional is infinitely superior to 2a right?
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This thread is probably using his sealed version, or "At least 2-A" end for the unsealed version.
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Okay explain to me this concept of witches. How does it help her in battle? What can she do with it?
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It wasn't debunked.. But what does that have to do with my statement that you're questioning? People believe that match is inconclusive, meaning Madoka is enough to stop Zeed.
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Madoka is the concept of destroying witches. Which I already told you.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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It means they do not solo....It just means neither can kill each other. And thus no soloing occurs...
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How is that a concept?
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Are you'll questioning me over a single term? Ok then, Madoka's battle with Zeed would be inconclusive.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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I am questioning how in any way, shape or form can Madoka "solo" here?
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Is Madoka enough to handle Zeed? Yes? Then I considered that "soloing".Dragonmasterxyz said:
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How can she "handle" Zeed? Only thing she does here is survive. Nothing she does will really hurt him whatsoever. She will literally be a sole survivor. Soloing would imply she defeatws Zeed when in truth she simply survived Zeed.
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The same can be said for Zeed. Nothing he has can affect her. Making their battle inconclusive. If Zeed can't defeat her alone, how is he clearing this gauntlet?
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1) No the reason why the fight was inconclusive was because he could not permanently kill her. Her Type 8 immortality was her only saving grace.
2) Never said he couldn't skip ahead. Matter of fact no one said this was a gauntlet. Never said he COULD clear the gauntlet.
2) Never said he couldn't skip ahead. Matter of fact no one said this was a gauntlet. Never said he COULD clear the gauntlet.
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1) You know I can use the same exact argument right? Resisting concept manipulation and Mid-Godly regen was Zeed's saving grace. Can we just agree that the match was inconclusive?
2) Then why are we having this discussion?
2) Then why are we having this discussion?
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Our problem with that thread is that you kept saying what amounted to: "This match can't happen since Madoka is only effective against witches, therefore Zeed must be a witch for this match to happen and therefore he must lose."
You were wasting our time with your endless filibustering.
Our problem with that thread is that you kept saying what amounted to: "This match can't happen since Madoka is only effective against witches, therefore Zeed must be a witch for this match to happen and therefore he must lose."
You were wasting our time with your endless filibustering.
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I never said Zeed would lose. I agreed with the first few comments of the match being inconclusive. The witch thing was mentioned because that's literally the only way Zeed can even interact with Madoka, let alone fight her. If you thought I was downplaying Zeed then I apologize.Reppuzan said:
sealed or not? its decicive...partially as it is vitually impossible to kill zeed
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Sealed Zeed is used
Sealed Zeed is used
just call me dai
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Zeed is Low 1-C
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