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Z Tenchi Muyo enters Saint Seiya Omega verse

The being was Fuku, who was stated to be have enough energy to fill a small universe and she can't even generate one Light Hawk Wing, Z can generate five, and dozens of Fukus could only generate four.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Z meant that simply having more than two Light Hawk Wings in the universe would destroy it.
 
Thank you, Everlasting. I couldn't for the life of me remember what Fuku's species were called, and I felt like an idiot when I remembered it was "cabbits".
 
Well, you would have done better than me, I was just winging it because I haven't seen Tenchi Muyo, not a big fan of Slice of Life series, I always liked my action.
 
Azathoth what I meant that Z with just 2 LHW needs the destruction of a universe to take them out right? I didn't mean Z with 4.
 
I believe Z meant that since LHW are higher dimensional and he had more, Tenchi wouldn' be able to stop him and would die if he destroyed the universe (him presuming Tenchi to be mortal, and all).
 
That seems too vague to go on, as that is merely Z's perspective and Tokimi is absurdly greater than he is. She very possibly could have stopped him, but wasn't the whole thing part of a test? It's been a long time.
 
Yeah Tokimi was doing tests trying to see if Z was the higher being she was searching for.

I meant if Z needs dozens of univeses to be destroyed with 5 LHW, and since he said Tokimi needed to destroy a world to take out his two LHW, I don't think you need to destroy that many universes to take out 2 LHW.
 
That is correct. LHWs increase in power exponentially rather than linearly.
 
I think that for each LHW you need double the power to destroy it.

Like for Z with 2 LHW would be:

1+2=3 universes to destroy it.

Z with 5 LHW:

1+2+4+8+16=31 universes to destroy them.
 
This is a misinterpretation. That scene was when Z was bypassing Tokimi's hand. In order for her to stop him she would have had to manifest more of her power which would have destroyed that universe(hence why she can't stop him). World is probably referring to Universe and not earth as they were fighting around Saturn at this point. It's doubtful Tokimi would care about destroying Saturn.
 
Well, considering that a few dozen Fukus (Individually universal) combined with a first generation Jurai tree (which can generate 3 LHWs on their own) could only generate 4 LHWs, I am uncertain how many universes in destructive power that it would take to take down Z, but given that LHWs are higher-dimensional energy manifested in a lower-dimensional realm, and are specialised in defense, not attack, they seem to be able to disperse all power directed at them to a higher-dimensional plane. Or at least, that is my impression.
 
Eric Stormbringer said:
This is a misinterpretation. That scene was when Z was bypassing Tokimi's hand. In order for her to stop him she would have had to manifest more of her power which would have destroyed that universe(hence why she can't stop him). World is probably referring to Universe and not earth as they were fighting around Saturn at this point. It's doubtful Tokimi would care about destroying Saturn.
Yeah that's what I believe Z said. Z said that Tokimi would have to destroy the universe to take down his 2 LHW.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, considering that a few dozen Fukus (Individually universal) combined with a first generation Jurai tree (which can generate 3 LHWs on their own) could only generate 4 LHWs, I am uncertain how many universes in destructive power that it would take to take down Z, but given that LHWs are higher-dimensional energy manifested in a lower-dimensional realm, and are specialised in defense, not attack, they seem to be able to disperse all power directed at them to a higher-dimensional plane. Or at least, that is my impression.


I meant that just Z with 2 LHW.
 
Yeah that's what I believe Z said. Z said that Tokimi would have to destroy the universe to take down his 2 LHW.

Not to take out his LHW but to stop him from phasing through her hand and reaching Tenchi. LHW's are non-linear as mentioned and Z has access to 5 of them. At the very least thats 5 universes and realistically much more.
 
Yeah that's what I believe Z said. Z said that Tokimi would have to destroy the universe to take down his 2 LHW.

Not to take out his LHW but to stop him from phasing through her hand and reaching Tenchi. LHW's are non-linear as mentioned and Z has access to 5 of them. At the very least thats 5 universes and realistically much more.


Yeah but remember when Z said that he only had 2 LHW because he used 3 of his LHW's to cancel out Tenchi's LHWs.
 
Yeah but remember when Z said that he only had 2 LHW because he used 3 of his LHW's to cancel out Tenchi's LHWs.


As far as I am aware that was a temporary condition and not a permanent loss. Do we have any evidence that Z lost those 3 LHWs permanently?
 
apparently alot they have diferent powers however cosmos is the power of destruction and from what i can recall the titans possess dunamis the power of creation
 
No, he still had his 5 LHWs. He just temporarily used 3 of them to neutralise Tenchi's.
 
Right; what we are saying is that Z "lost" those 3 for the duration of that particular fight not permanently. Lost in this case being a strong word-a more accurate description would be in use.
 
I'll ask Endless Mike that question.

btw this is what the tenchi muyo wiki said about the power necessary to take out the LHW:

The energy requirements to generate multiple Light Hawk Wings are exponentially greater than a single wing. Each wing requiring double the energy of the previous wing. For one wing, that's an energy level of 1. For three wings, that's an energy level of 1 + 2 + 4 = 7. For ten wings, that's an energy level of 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 16 + 32 + 64 + 128 + 256 + 512 = 1023.

http://tenchi.wikia.com/wiki/Light_Hawk_Wings
 
Yup, and the Fukus can individually not generate a single LHW, so given Z's 5 of them that makes at least 31 universes.
 
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