Yuta vs Jotaro

[Ethnikistis]

It's actually because Sukuna is an incarnation. Rika can keep Yuta conscious when he's near death and output RCT on her own, though.

No its because Sukuna can pump blood with CE manipulation,only HE can do that.Yuji can also sorta survive without a heart because of Sukuna,not the opposite.

Ryu punches like a thousand times harder than Star Platinum. And Rika dealt with Ryu just fine, it was being hit right after her complete manifestation came undone that pushed her over the edge.

I wouldn't say a thousand times harder, somewhere in the hundreds.
Anyways SP is massively faster than Rika enough to output a huge barrage to deal with her.And it was stated that Ryus punch would have had similar results to a FM Rika.

 

[Zabazab]

No its because Sukuna can pump blood with CE manipulation

He can also do that. But it's stated the reason he can live without a heart is due to his status as an incarnation.

I wouldn't say a thousand times harder, somewhere in the hundreds.
Anyways SP is massively faster than Rika enough to output a huge barrage to deal with her.And it was stated that Ryus punch would have had similar results to a FM Rika.

It's stated that Ryu's blow was difficult for fully-manifested Rika to deal with, not that it would have similar results to its effect of partially-manifested Rika.

And being millions of times faster doesn't change the stat gap, a thousand of SP's punches still won't hurt Yuta or Rika.

 

[Ethnikistis]

He can also do that. But it's stated the reason he can live without a heart is due to his status as an incarnation.

We see him pump blood manually in Shinjuku,thats why he can live without a heart,also Yuta isnt an incarnation so your arguement is pointless anyways.

It's stated that Ryu's blow was difficult for fully-manifested Rika to deal with, not that it would have similar results to its effect of partially-manifested Rika.

Yes that's why it would have similar effects????

And being millions of times faster doesn't change the stat gap, a thousand of SP's punches still won't hurt Yuta or Rika.

You just said that one Ryu punch is thousands time stronger than a SP punch,so by your logic it would hurt Rika and most likely leave her out of the fight.

 

[Zabazab]

We see him pump blood manually in Shinjuku,thats why he can live without a heart,also Yuta isnt an incarnation so your arguement is pointless anyways.

He can do that. That's not why he can live without a heart. It's because he's an incarnation (as stated in the chapter where he rips Yuji's heart out). Also I never argued Yuta could do this, I was just stating a bit of trivia because someone else brought it up.

Yes that's why it would have similar effects????

Full Rika is >= Yuta in durability and they both eat Ryu's strikes and Granité Blasts multiple times. It can't one-shot either of them, it just hits hard because Ryu has the best AP out of all Culling Game Players. The page where Rika is rendered incapable of fighting says "a blow that was difficult to handle even while fully manifested" as it hits a partially-manifested Rika (since the 5 minute timer ran out an instant prior).

You just said that one Ryu punch is thousands time stronger than a SP punch,so by your logic it would hurt Rika and most likely leave her out of the fight.

SP punching 1000 times ≠ an AP 1000 times greater than a single punch from SP. SP cannot conventionally harm Yuta or even partially-manifested Rika.

 

[Arkenis]

All this assuming H7C even where Yuta ends up when the verse gets updated. Definitely can't wait to see this match done again.

 

[Zabazab]

8-C MakiYuta is the truth

 

[Ethnikistis]

He can do that. That's not why he can live without a heart. It's because he's an incarnation (as stated in the chapter where he rips Yuji's heart out). Also I never argued Yuta could do this, I was just stating a bit of trivia because someone else brought it up.

Thats exactly why he can live without a heart.Sukuna says that he can live without a heart while Yuji cant and swapping with him would just kill him, nothing about incarnation physiology is stated.

Full Rika is >= Yuta in durability and they both eat Ryu's strikes and Granité Blasts multiple times. It can't one-shot either of them, it just hits hard because Ryu has the best AP out of all Culling Game Players. The page where Rika is rendered incapable of fighting says "a blow that was difficult to handle even while fully manifested" as it hits a partially-manifested Rika (since the 5 minute timer ran out an instant prior).

How are they close in durability???
The blow was hard for FM Rika to deal with thats why it would have similar effects and would most probably rende

SP punching 1000 times ≠ an AP 1000 times greater than a single punch from SP. SP cannot conventionally harm Yuta or even partially-manifested Rika.

Yes it is???
The continuous Building level punches would accumulate eventually, especially if they happen in zero time.A human can survive a regular punch with no problem but if they receive a 1000 in zero time they will die.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

We literally had a whole CRT about Stands a long time ago that they can't stack damage with Stand Rushing or Time Stopping. They're stuck with what level they're at unless they have an actual power up mechanic.

 

[Mommyleona]

All this talk about Rika being damaged when she has invulnerability

Yes it is???
The continuous Building level punches would accumulate eventually

and no, this is not how it works

 

[Zabazab]

nothing about incarnation physiology is stated.

But it is. You can check the chapter if you want to, Megumi states it plainly. Don't bother arguing about this when you've clearly forgotten what was said in that scene.

How are they close in durability???

Yuta and Fully-Manifested Rika? Because she blocks Granité Blast with her palm and Ryu remarks "This thing might be tougher than Okkotsu!" before getting clocked in the face. I have explained fairly thoroughly why Ryu cannot one-shot Yuta or Fully-Manifested Rika, not that it matters since Star Platinum is not in any way comparable to Ryu.

Yes it is???

Simply not true. As this is not equivalent to a person punching a person, but a mouse charging at a person.

All this talk about Rika being damaged when she has invulnerability

Nvm the fact that shikigami should not have ts when the only evidence is "Uhh they can be mistaken for cursed spirits sometimes." RCT healing them is already plenty to say their physiologies are not similar enough for shikigami to leech off of cursed spirits.

 

[Ethnikistis]

Fine idc abt this thread that much.
Ill just say as a goodbye that SP starts playing with Yutas internal organs like Conquest and wins.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Fine idc abt this thread that much.
Ill just say as a goodbye that SP starts playing with Yutas internal organs like Conquest and wins.

Innate Domain counters the phasing thing.

 

[Ethnikistis]

But it is. You can check the chapter if you want to, Megumi states it plainly. Don't bother arguing about this when you've clearly forgotten what was said in that scene.

Both Sukuna and Megumi just say that Sukuna can live without his heart.Nothing about incarnation.

 

[Ethnikistis]

Innate Domain counters the phasing thing.

I dont think it has enough proof to be able to do that,maybe in a vessel situation but not here.Especially not in time stop.

 

[Zabazab]

Innate Domain counters the phasing thing.

It doesn't. It prevents things from being spawned inside them, nothing more. But Yuta has RCT anyway even if he gets his organs yanked about.

Both Sukuna and Megumi just say that Sukuna can live without his heart.Nothing about incarnation.

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