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Yuna Yuki vs General Esdeath

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A Hero for the people vs a bloodthirsty general

- Both at least 7-B

- Speed equalized

- Both fighters are serious about winning.

Yuna Yuki: 8 (GoldenScorpions, Blahblah9755, Monarch Laciel, Elione-Arisu, Scarletmoon56, Kaltias, Xanxussama1010, Gargoyle 1)

General Esdeath: 1 (Burning Full Fingers)

Inconclusive: 0

Hero-punch
Esdeath one hit
 
Well okay so how it works in YuYuYu is that the girls have a fairy or fairies that protect them in battle. Basically the fairies block the brunt of attacks, and protect them from death (including suicide attempts). However, the girls can still be harmed and even knocked out cold (as seen when Yuna gets slapped around by the Scorpio Veryex, and Togo gets shot by the Leo Star Cluster's fireball). That's also why I'm not sure if I should ban Mahapadma, as if Esdeath freezes time and attacks, I'm not sure if Yuna's fairies would react fast enough.
 
Maybe, but it depends how Esdeath goes about it. If she just stabs Yuna (as she did with Susano'o, though she went for his weak spot) Yuna could possibly survive. As we've seen with Gin (whose page I'll add eventually), Heroes can still fight after being impaled in multiple places (Gin was a Hero before fairies were introduced to the Hero system). Though it'd hurt like hell.
 
Hmm, how many times can Esdeath use Mahapadma as of the end of the manga? She used it twice, right? If so, she would make sure to finish Yuna off the second time and she's way more skilled, intelligent and experienced and can probably freeze Yuna or her fairies.

How many fairies does Yuna have again? I can't remember.
 
She has two fairies, but I don't think they'll be able to be frozen. As of yet we haven't seen them be affected by battles at all. They're just kinda...there. And can Esdeath use it twice? I thought it was only once every 24 hours.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure too. But they only fight against those disgusting mindless things (can't remember what they're called). Esdeath is much smarter in comparison so she might just try that.

I also thought she could use Mahapadma once but if I'm remembering correctly, in the final battle she used it twice. I can't remember the first time but I heard she used it to stop Murasame temporarily or something.
 
I mean the Vertex are intelligent in their own right (for example the Scorpio, Cancer, and Sagittarius Vertexes often work in tandem to catch Heroes off-guard, which was how Wasshi and Sonocchi almost died, and how Gidid die), though Esdeath is, to be fair, way smarter and more experienced than Yuna. But I don't recall her using Mahapadma twice, though it might be bc of my terrible memory lol. Also Yuna, despite not being as experienced as some Heroes, quickly became the most powerful Hero, so that might even the playing field against Esdeath.
 
Not really, I don't particularly remember either. But if she did use it twice, I know it wasn't in quick succession. I don't think that would help even the playing field per se, Esdeath is easily better in every way. But it would give her a better chance.
 
The way I see it, their advantages are:

Esdeath: - Faster (tho speed is equalized) - More versatile - More deadly - Smarter - Better overall fighter

Yuna: - Physically stronger (in both striking and lifting strength) - More durable (especially with those fairies) - More tenacious

Sooooooo overall Esdeath has more advantages, but Yuna's advantages are big in their own right. if I had a vote I'd give it to Esdeath, but with high-difficulty.
 
I give it to Esdeath as well. Better fighting skill, range, and versatility as well as attack spam gives her the edge imo.
 
Tbh the only thing stopping me personally from giving this to Esdeath outright are Yuna's fairies. As I personally can't guarantee Mahapadma can get around them.
 
If I recall, Yuna and Tatsumi were in the same tier when he evolved to resist Mahapadma. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say Yuna could resist it herself. And if not Mahapadma, 90% of whatever else Esdeath has wouldn't do a lot to Yuna (who has fire manipulation no less)
 
It says "The power of Anzu's Yukijoro was to cover a wide-reaching area in intense cold. If it weren't for their hero clothes, the other heroes would not have been able to withstand the cold either. They would likely have frozen to death in mere seconds."
 
I will go for Yuna here. They both resist each other's elements (Yuna resists ice, Esdeath resists fire), and based on the feat shown above, it seems like they can even resist Absolute Zero-level ice attacks... Which would then lead mainly between their other abilities. They are both proficient in close combat and, while Esdeath is smarter, Yuna's is far more destructive when Esdeath's ice powers don't do the job. Yuna's forcefield further blocks those attacks. Then ofc, the fairies are there to block any too-dangerous attacks from Esdeaths sword skills. Yuna has fought against Fu before who is a swordswoman, so she has experience in that, just like Esdeath with hand-to-hand fighters.

Based on all that, I think Yuna wins this through sheer power, forcefields and borderline undestructibility.
 
Oh, in that case I don't see why it wouldn't be similar to Tatsumi's cold resistance. I guess I'll change my vote. Esdeath' best chance to win would be tiring Yuna out, but I don't really have much confidence she could do that before Yuna could finish her off, or injure her enough that she'd tire out before Yuna.

@Golden let's not get too ahead of ourselves here, there's no reason to assume that's absolute zero, but it should still be enough to resist mahapadma which was the big threat to her.
 
Well, if Yuna resists Mahapadma, she should have a much better chance. My problem is if Esdeath can freeze those fairies. If it's possible, I still give it to Esdeath. If it isn't, I change to Yuna.

Though you did say the girls can still be harmed and knocked out even with their fairies and it's not a necessity that they fight to the death, so yeah I'm still with Esdeath.

Hmm, wait. Is resistance to cold the same as resistance to ice? If that's so, Yuna would have resistance to all of Esdeath's attacks. Changing to Yuna if that's the case.
 
I feel like, and this is just a feeling, Esdeath could possibly freeze Yuna's fairies with Mahapadma, but only Yuna's fairies, and only with Mahapadma. And I feel like if Yuna has a resistance to cold, she can handle Esdeath's ice attacks (Yuna can probably punch or kick through them in general but the cold resistance helps). Still though Esdeath's deadly without all the ice attacks in that she's still a better fighter and is smarter in general. Yuna's resistances and fighting style certainly level the playing field tho.
 
Well originally it was because it was a 6-B attack against an at least 7-B opponent but since Yuna is resistant it doesn't really matter.
 
It's environmental damage so it wouldn't hurt her either way, plus it gives her extra techniques with her ice.
 
@Burning Full Fingers

I wasn't sure if resistance to cold=resistance to ice, so I checked on the powerlisting wikia. And I found in the limitations that it doesn't protect against physical damage caused by ice.

The fairies were not stated to be imune to cold/ice, so I guess Esdeath can affect them. And Mahapadma is stated to freeze time and space, I don't see how she can resist this.

In the end, I vote for Esdeath
 
My thing is that I'm not sure how much physical damage Esdeath's ice attackswould cause, because 1. Tina's forcefields would block the brunt of a lot of them if 2. She doesn't outright punch through them.
 
It's unsure what the fairies are capable of, tbh. They can block any life-threatening/super-powerful attacks (literally any) and they are pretty much indestructible by nature. It's quite likely those fairies are mini-deities in the sense that they were created by Shinju (a God of the series) and they grant divine protection to the heroes. But I'm however unaware of whether they can be affected by other effects such as freezing or not.
 
Time stop isn't banned? Esdeath then. I feel you are overestimating those fairies if you think they can defend from attacks during a time stop.
 
Erm, aren't the fairies just as cold resistant as the heroes since they've always been perfectly fine even when the heroes were fighting in extreme cold environments? The time stop wouldn't be effecting them either.

@Monarch And I feel you're overestimating Esdeath if you think she can overpower and incapacitate Yuna in only a few seconds of time stop.
 
That and we've determined that Yuna might actually be resistant to Esdeath's Mahapadma due to having cold resistance.
 
Is Mahapadma freezing time or just freezing everything around her so it seems time has stopped? If its the former, cold resistance wouldn't help, but if its the latter it would
 
It's "freezing space and time" but it's resistable if you have resistance to the cold (that's why Tatsumi could resist it), so it's a bit of both. It's explained in Esdeath's weaknesses.
 
Well, temperatures never really came up that much in YuYuYu, but I suppose you could make a case for Yuki being resistant to cold seeing as she was able to fight without difficulty in upper atmosphere when she killed to moon-sized vertex
 
@Monarch, it's something that's addressed in the prequels apparently, the hero clothes provide protection against a cold intense enough it would flash freeze the vertexes, and them if they weren't wearing the clothes.

Gojira linked the scan earlier, but here it is again if you didn't see it: http://m.imgur.com/jM8KVYx?r
 
Oh fair enough then. I wasn't aware of the weakness of Esdeath's time stop. In that case, if she uses Mahapadma, Esdeath will be the one at the disadvantage as it tires her out. If she's pushed enough, she'll probably end up using it and find to her horror that Yuna can resist it and the fairies can still protect. I'll change my vote to Yuki
 
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