Yukari (not Touhou one) Destiny Manipulation

[Monarch_Laciel]

Yukari's page has her destiny manipulation link going to probability manipulation instead of fate manipulation , and her "rewrite a new destiny" goes to reality warping. Reading through her page, it all seems like straight up fate manipulation, just her "fight against destiny" is low level fate manip and her "power sacrifice to rewrite the world's destiny" is extremely high level. Shouldn't they both be linked to the Fate Manipulation page?

 

[LazyHunter]

The first one should probably be linked to it, it's simply that the Fate Manipulation page didn't exist at the time Yukari's page was created. As for her creating a new destiny, I think reality warping suits the demonstrated effects better since it achieves impossible outcomes in a way that clearly involves rewriting reality.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

High enough level fate manipulation can function as reality warping, a la "the fate of the world is to instantly become a new one". It would just be better to know from what power her ability originates. Perhaps a dual link so we can see both the power's origin and its effect?

 

[XBlackExcellenceX]

In a deterministic reality, it may be impossible to change certain events
	~ Fate Manipulation​

Changing destiny to ordain one outcome may lead to unpredictable results as additional outcomes may be out of the user's reach
	~ Fate Manipulation​

So no, fate manipulation cannot manipulate reality. That's Causality Manipulation, which Yukari doesn't have.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Neither of those quotes show fate manip cannot control reality. Nothing says Yukari's reality is deterministic. In fact her ability to change destiny pretty much shows its not. Her species is literally described as "guiding and controlling destiny", and her existence is the result of the Hyakki trying to gain the power to rewrite destiny as they want, something that she is capable of by sacrificing her powers. And additionally "may be out of the user's reach". As in it might be for one user, but not for another.

Causality, has never once come into Yukari's power set, nor is it the only power that can manipulate reality as you seem to believe it is. Re-writing destiny to allow for impossible events on the other hand is completely an application of fate manip.

Also, get off my thread XBlack. I have neither the patience nor the effort to spare for arguing with you and your argument ad nauseum fallacies

 

[XBlackExcellenceX]

Also, get off my thread XBlack. I have neither the patience nor the effort to spare for arguing with you and your argument ad nauseum fallacies

Your quotes above were easily refutable. But I'll respect your opinions and unfollow this thread.

 

[LazyHunter]

@Monarch Laciel

I don't feel like it's necessary to make a double link. If it was listed as just "Reality Warping" sure, but the link already says the ability works by creating a new destiny, so its source ability being the same Fate Manipulation already listed for her should go without saying.