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Speed equalized. In character. Starting range 20 meters. Environment is just a barren flat rocky wasteland. SBA otherwise.
Pre-Rose Meruem: 9
Shinjuku Yuji: 1
Pre-Rose Meruem: 9
Shinjuku Yuji: 1
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Yuji Vs. Meruem
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we need to ban nen crush bro
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Iirc didn't Nen crush get nerfed a while back when it was CRT'd into not working in verse equalization where other verses have their own aura's? I think CE would just cancel it out even using the wiki's rules.
Not that Ren actually works that way but ofc HXH fans misunderstand the story.
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Oh and also no. Unless Yuji can undo the effect with RCT which I'm not sure about.
Meruem also only does that Post-Rose so I'm surprised it's in his Pre-Rose abilities.
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Its not an issue for majority of characters besides the ones who actually do it lol.
That never was a crt. There's no verse equalization here anyway. And in hxh people have their auras and still can be nen crushed.
We got it treated as fear hax for the most part so what way do you mean it doesn't work?
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You wouldn't know that for a fact unless you've seen every HXH thread ever lol..
Pretty sure verse equalization is apart of SBA.
Not necessarily? I'm not sure what you mean by this. If that was the case the Chimera Ant Arc would've played out much differently.
Ren is just someone projecting their Aura outwards instead of holding it in a relaxed state like Ten, it is basically someone showing the full strength of their Aura, it's the closest thing to a power level in the series without going full on Dragon Ball. And if someone is projecting malicious intentions into it, it can negatively effect other people mentally and physically. For other Nen users, Ten resists the physical brunt, but the perceived bloodlust can still effect them mentally, causing people to undergo immense stress which can cause a variety of reaction's, this also is similar to En which is an Aura projected outwards for different purposes. Knov's will breaking at the sight of Pouf's En is something that would be even worse if he were exposed to Pouf's Ren. When Pitou cut off Kite's arm and turned to stare at Gon and Killua, it caused them to feel immense fear, but nothing else, and Gon was going to power through it with his strength of will, that's an example of Ren, and even though Pitou's Aura was vastly stronger than theirs, the actual effect of it didn't stop Gon from acting, and Killua was still effected by Illumi's needle.
Ren isn't death hax or immense fear hax. It's just someone's Aura projected outwards and can be imbued with emotional hostility. It's not much different from something like Stain causing the other Heroes to feel paralyzed with his bloodlust. It's just a more literal effect in the case of a hostile Ren. People without resistance to another person's Aura can be harmed if they get close to a hostile Ren, but that's still only an effect of the Aura's strength. If someone is stronger than the Aura, even physically, nothing of the sort would happen. Kid Goku could stand in front of Meruem's most hostile Ren and he would be completely fine physically and mentally. Because the strength of Meruem's Aura is vastly weaker than Kid Goku.
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CE aura's are a thing so maybe? They're just not as visible as Nen aura's.
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If Yuji lands a domain Meruem will simply just die he has no resistance to soul dmg. Plus there would be nothing to consume in a “Environment is just a barren flat rocky wasteland” so he cant regen. Shrine is gonna be much more potent to Meruem especially since his durability is nen enhanced via ryu and ko. Although Meruem definitely outskills Yuji, Pre-Rose he cant do shit against him
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So Ill vote Yuji early
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Oh yeah I need to take votes. I forgor.
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To be clear you're voting Meruem correct?
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IIRC Meruem is like, laughably above a dude who did a 460~ Kiloton feat, so I'd say he has AP advantage. Then there's the Ryu and Ko, and, well, he kinda gets one shot.
Additionally, Ignoring Nen Crush since I'm unsure here, but I think Meruem destroys in the Skill Department, and his range is much more than Yuji. That said, Soul stuff could **** him up, but I think, via Precognition (Which is just wild here), adaptation, reactive shenanigans, etc... he'd be able to kill Yuji before getting cooked by the soul stuff. Voting Meruem rn.
Additionally, Ignoring Nen Crush since I'm unsure here, but I think Meruem destroys in the Skill Department, and his range is much more than Yuji. That said, Soul stuff could **** him up, but I think, via Precognition (Which is just wild here), adaptation, reactive shenanigans, etc... he'd be able to kill Yuji before getting cooked by the soul stuff. Voting Meruem rn.
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Yeah voting Meruem. Even if people wanna argue over Ren and fear hax shenanigans, I don't see Yuji surviving when Meruem has the ap advantage regularly, and then can use Ryu and Ko to one shot, Yuji won't pop domain just cause as people might like to argue, and gets out skilled over time.
I'd say this match won't be a thing in a couple months either since the main calcs scaling H7C were killed and aren't usable for H7C anymore but who knows, Yuji might not have such a close ap value to Meruem.
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I also have Meruem winning this with low-mid difficulty. He has an AP advantage, which while not enough to one-shot in base physicals, can probably do massive if not lethal damage if he uses Ko. Plus a massive intelligence and skill advantage.
Yuji's only chance is with Domain, but he doesn't usually start with it in-character and it still may not be enough to compensate for the other advantages.
Yuji's only chance is with Domain, but he doesn't usually start with it in-character and it still may not be enough to compensate for the other advantages.
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Meruem FRA
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Yuji isn't a bad fighter necessarily he's still just a brawler with decent H2H skills. Meruem would pretty much be seeing his next 10 moves ahead of time and would counter all of Yuji's attacks. While Domain Expansion's sure hit would cover some of that, the damage dealt by Meruem could only be negated so much by RCT before a lethal or incapacitating hit is done, and again if Meruem uses Ko and hits Yuji in a vital area, that's probably wraps. Black Flash could also do some damage but Meruem's durability is higher than his AP so I'm not sure how much it would accomplish in the long run.
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Mereum in the words of Grian obliterates
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Meruem is gonna have a massive skill and IQ advantage here, since a short exchange would be enough for Meruem to analyze millions of possible attack combinations that Yuji can utilize, along with his rhythm, that would let Meruem adapt to his fighting style and make a CQC fight basically an impossible task.
combine that with the HILLARIOUS gap between him and Youpi (whose feat Meruem upscales from) and the 10x amplifier from Ko, and the fact that Meruem would pretty much be going for the kill as soon as the fight starts, and i don't see a scenario where Yuji doesn't ger his head blown off in the first 60 seconds or less, assuming he even lasts that long.
this Meruem doesn't really use malicious aura that much, but it is something that he'd use after getting mildly annoyed or irritated, so a Ren crush could be something he resorts too.
i'm voting Meruem, and i think this is a pretty easy victory. even if Nen and CE get equalized.
combine that with the HILLARIOUS gap between him and Youpi (whose feat Meruem upscales from) and the 10x amplifier from Ko, and the fact that Meruem would pretty much be going for the kill as soon as the fight starts, and i don't see a scenario where Yuji doesn't ger his head blown off in the first 60 seconds or less, assuming he even lasts that long.
this Meruem doesn't really use malicious aura that much, but it is something that he'd use after getting mildly annoyed or irritated, so a Ren crush could be something he resorts too.
i'm voting Meruem, and i think this is a pretty easy victory. even if Nen and CE get equalized.
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bug who's really good at gungi FRA
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That’s hilarious btw
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That's 9 votes, the 7th vote was back at like 1 AM or so. So grace ends by midnight ig? Unless this gets classified as a stomp.
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why tho
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Grace period is over but I have no idea how to add matches to pages.
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What's more, I don't know, I hope I'm not wrong, but within Yuji's domain, can Meruem use Nen Crush?
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If Meruem should win, also something like...Meruem use cursed energy by eating a Yuji limb?
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unless Yuji has a passive resistance to Ren's effects, or has some kind of mental shield to deflect attacks like that, then the negative effects of malicious aura will be felt in the domain.
probably? the concept of CE is already close to Nen, so i don't know why we're not equalizing it. but either way, it's more likely for Meruem to straight up develop blood manipulation, shrine, and/or soul attacks by eating part of Yuji than just developing CE. for example, when absorbing Youpi's and Pouf's aura, he didn't inherit their Nen categories and proficiency, he inherited their exact abilities and augmented them to a higher level. he could also use them without taking the time to learn or study them.
basically, yuji better dodge everything.
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then not only does he develop CE (to enhance Yuji's techniques) but he will also have his skills and improve them WOW
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Where does the amplification of AP and Dura X10 come out?(since the Ant Arch I haven't read the manga, I forgot everything about HXH's pw)
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it comes from Ko. basically, everyone has 10 aura nodes in their body that produce aura. when punching normally, you don't use those aura nodes so you're just punching with your muscles. when you enhance your fist with your Nen, you attack with one aura node. but with Ko, you can put the energy of all 10 aura nodes into your fist to hit 10x harder than you normally would.
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