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Yuji vs Kenjaku

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Yuji vs Kenjaku

Shinjuku Yuji

Mom: Insert_creative_name_here_12, Giannysmag, Buraqibear, Mommyleona
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Kenjaku has Curses, Anti gravity, gravity manipulation and is a hand to hand master to hold Yuji down and Yuji is not lasting 5 seconds in a Domain clash against him. He isn't getting close enough to land soul dismantles either. Kenjaku bullies
 
Buraqibear said:
Kenjaku has Curses, Anti gravity, gravity manipulation and is a hand to hand master to hold Yuji down and Yuji is not lasting 5 seconds in a Domain clash against him. He isn't getting close enough to land soul dismantles either. Kenjaku bullies
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Most those curses get one shot, Yuji's fast enough to evade anti, grav isn't used so genuinely don't know what he does it for. Yuji's probably worse in h2h but he'll also add in blood manip and shrine so Kenjaku will definitely get worn down. Their rcts are probably gonna be what decides more. Also Yuji has knowledge of Kenjaku's domain, same way with Sukuna, he'll opt for Simple Domain and we know Yuji's Simple domain can last long against Sukuna's domain ripping it apart.
 
Arkenis said:
Most those curses get one shot, Yuji's fast enough to evade anti, grav isn't used so genuinely don't know what he does it for. Yuji's probably worse in h2h but he'll also add in blood manip and shrine so Kenjaku will definitely get worn down. Their rcts are probably gonna be what decides more. Also Yuji has knowledge of Kenjaku's domain, same way with Sukuna, he'll opt for Simple Domain and we know Yuji's Simple domain can last long against Sukuna's domain ripping it apart.
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Even if they get one shot, these Curses could hold Yuta and Rika down for a considerable amount of time so they still will be a factor, Even Miwa could withstand Sukuna's Domain while Yuki's got torn down in seconds by Kenjaku (and Gojo's by Sukuna) so it likely had to do something with Sukuna dealing with multiple people with simple domains and couldn't focus on breaking one apart, and Simple Domain won't allow Yuji to actually fight back, especially when Kenjaku is releasing curses while enhancing them with his CE
 
Buraqibear said:
Even if they get one shot, these Curses could hold Yuta and Rika down for a considerable amount of time so they still will be a factor, Even Miwa could withstand Sukuna's Domain while Yuki's got torn down in seconds by Kenjaku (and Gojo's by Sukuna) so it likely had to do something with Sukuna dealing with multiple people with simple domains and couldn't focus on breaking one apart, and Simple Domain won't allow Yuji to actually fight back, especially when Kenjaku is releasing curses while enhancing them with his CE
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The curses never held Yuta or Rika down. The horde did which Kenjaku never uses it like that and I think in anime Yuji and Choso literally destroy dozens of curses in a couple hits and Maki cleared out a whole tunnel alone. So Yuji with shrine really won't have a problem. Sukuna only focused on four simple domains, there's nothing implying Sukuna spreading the power to four simple domains lessened the damage significantly, if anything from the one example we've seen Dagon applying just 30% to Nanami was still powerful.

Simple Domain makes it so the auto hit can't target him and you can't use a different cursed tech that isn't applied to the domain, so Yuji can definitely beat his ass and still have his domain saved.
 
Arkenis said:
The curses never held Yuta or Rika down. The horde did which Kenjaku never uses it like that and I think in anime Yuji and Choso literally destroy dozens of curses in a couple hits and Maki cleared out a whole tunnel alone.
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Because Kenjaku either uses extremely powerful curses or strengthens weak ones. Both would cause Yuji some trouble.
Arkenis said:
So Yuji with shrine really won't have a problem. Sukuna only focused on four simple domains, there's nothing implying Sukuna spreading the power to four simple domains lessened the damage significantly, if anything from the one example we've seen Dagon applying just 30% to Nanami was still powerful.
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So you mean to say Yuji and Miwa's simple domains are more refined than Gojo and Yuki's?
Arkenis said:
Simple Domain makes it so the auto hit can't target him and you can't use a different cursed tech that isn't applied to the domain, so Yuji can definitely beat his ass and still have his domain saved.
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I know what a simple domain does, it just isn't gonna last long enough against Kenjaku's domain for Yuji to do anything. And where is it stated that you can't use a technique not imbued in the domain? Gojo thought Sukuna could use 10S while Malevolent Shrine was active.

Kenjaku outclasses Yuji in his own best field and Kenjaku's fighting style (more ranged) completely counters Yuji's (close range) then there's the mini-uzumaki thing, Kenjaku would blast chunks off Yuji with the mini Uzumaki's at close range
 
Buraqibear said:
Because Kenjaku either uses extremely powerful curses or strengthens weak ones. Both would cause Yuji some trouble.
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Nah, the curses during culling games and the end of Shibuya were literally destroyed by the people there. There's nothing showing Yuji's not blasting through tons of curses with just his regular hits.

Buraqibear said:
So you mean to say Yuji and Miwa's simple domains are more refined than Gojo and Yuki's?
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Probably? Yuki's Simple Domain is feat-less but also just has no concrete scaling for domains. Yuji got his domain skill from Kusakabe the best user of simple domain and Miwa was trained by Kusakabe. And its stated Sukuna's domain didn't have any drop in output but even if you don't agree overall, Sukuna's domain on Gojo is made smaller every time which amps it's output so that's not a good comparison.

Buraqibear said:
I know what a simple domain does, it just isn't gonna last long enough against Kenjaku's domain for Yuji to do anything. And where is it stated that you can't use a technique not imbued in the domain? Gojo thought Sukuna could use 10S while Malevolent Shrine was active.
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I misremembered. I was thinking domain amps.

Buraqibear said:
Kenjaku outclasses Yuji in his own best field and Kenjaku's fighting style (more ranged) completely counters Yuji's (close range) then there's the mini-uzumaki thing, Kenjaku would blast chunks off Yuji with the mini Uzumaki's at close range
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I already said it won't just be h2h given blood manip and shrine, so it's irrelevant if he outclasses. Yuji's also got ranged attacks he can spam. Mini Uzumaki could just be shrined or blocked with blood honestly. Also rct.
 
Arkenis said:
Nah, the curses during culling games and the end of Shibuya were literally destroyed by the people there. There's nothing showing Yuji's not blasting through tons of curses with just his regular hits.


Probably? Yuki's Simple Domain is feat-less but also just has no concrete scaling for domains. Yuji got his domain skill from Kusakabe the best user of simple domain and Miwa was trained by Kusakabe. And its stated Sukuna's domain didn't have any drop in output but even if you don't agree overall, Sukuna's domain on Gojo is made smaller every time which amps it's output so that's not a good comparison.


I misremembered. I was thinking domain amps.


I already said it won't just be h2h given blood manip and shrine, so it's irrelevant if he outclasses. Yuji's also got ranged attacks he can spam. Mini Uzumaki could just be shrined or blocked with blood honestly. Also rct.
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I assume Kenny has his whole arsenal so Kenjaku wins. Ganesha just kind of trolls Yuji, Kurourushi can genuinely give Yuji trouble with his swarm and Festering Life Blade. The catfish can also trip Yuji up.

Kenny’s mini Uzumaki will enable him to do damage as well.

Anti Gravity will let him hold Yuji down if he fails to dodge or make him back off. Yuji is basically screwed if he isn’t in melee while Kenny is gonna be at his best in mid range.

Kenny domain diffs that isn't debatable. Also people are saying Simple Domain like that’s supposed to save Yuji but even Sukuna’s HWB got shredded by Yuta’s domain in seconds. I absolutely do not believe Yuji’s Simple Domain is doing much better than Yuki’s did against Kenny.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
If he just ended it then he would’ve been hit by the sure hit earlier.
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So you acknowledge the manga is telling us that he's the one who ended it, right? Why would you then still argue the domain stripped it? You probably just forgot the fight, but Sukuna figures their plan is to keep attacking so he can't maintain HWB. Why would they need to do this if the domain was already stripping it? Yuta controls the sure hit, Sukuna notes this, why would you believe the domain stripped it, rather Yuta just didn't activate the sure hit right away but instead seconds later?
 
Arkenis said:
So you acknowledge the manga is telling us that he's the one who ended it, right? Why would you then still argue the domain stripped it? You probably just forgot the fight, but Sukuna figures their plan is to keep attacking so he can't maintain HWB. Why would they need to do this if the domain was already stripping it? Yuta controls the sure hit, Sukuna notes this, why would you believe the domain stripped it, rather Yuta just didn't activate the sure hit right away but instead seconds later?
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Because Sukuna ending HWB is simply him dropping the hand sign as in he is no longer maintaining output for the technique.

The only way the scene makes sense is if Yuta’s domain destroyed HWB after Sukuna stopped maintaining the technique’s output. Otherwise there is no reason why Yuta wouldn’t instantly hit him with it and then keep attacking.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Because Sukuna ending HWB is simply him dropping the hand sign as in he is no longer maintaining output for the technique.
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So then where do we see the domain stripping it? This is something consistently shown and told to us every time, so can you please explain the sudden lack of that happening here?

Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
The only way the scene makes sense is if Yuta’s domain destroyed HWB after Sukuna stopped maintaining the technique’s output. Otherwise there is no reason why Yuta wouldn’t instantly hit him with it and then keep attacking.
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No. The HWB just ended because he stopped maintaining it.
 
Arkenis said:
So then where do we see the domain stripping it? This is something consistently shown and told to us every time, so can you please explain the sudden lack of that happening here?


No. The HWB just ended because he stopped maintaining it.
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HWB is rarely shown in the battle but we know it is there. For Yuta to hit Sukuna with JL it means HWB is gone

So why didn’t the sure hit land on him when he ended it? Is Yuta an idiot who turned his sure hit off for most of the battle?
 
Arkenis said:
So you acknowledge the manga is telling us that he's the one who ended it, right? Why would you then still argue the domain stripped it? You probably just forgot the fight, but Sukuna figures their plan is to keep attacking so he can't maintain HWB. Why would they need to do this if the domain was already stripping it?
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bub, the domain strips his hwb because he cant maintain the handsign, thus he cant keep the output to resist the domain, normally no one cant do that since it makes both your hands busy, but Sukuna happens to have 4, just look at Reggie.
Arkenis said:
the manga is telling us that he's the one who ended it
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so u saying Sukuna is so dumb he decided to drop his only defence against the domain, for absolutely no reason and just potentially die?
Arkenis said:
Yuta just didn't activate the sure hit right away but instead seconds later?
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and he would do that why? so sukuna would have a chance to attack or reapply hwb or what? your stance makes no sense
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
HWB is rarely shown in the battle but we know it is there. For Yuta to hit Sukuna with JL it means HWB is gone
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Because Sukuna stop maintaining it.

Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
So why didn’t the sure hit land on him when he ended it? Is Yuta an idiot who turned his sure hit off for most of the battle?
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No it's just being controlled precisely. He simply didn't use it right away because he wanted to keep pressing Sukuna so he can't do a handsign or chants, something Yuta brought up. This is Yuta not knowing how specific the world slash requirements are, that's why he says "Even if its a simple technique, he's forced to use chants, handsigns, or both." Since Sukuna still had his tongue on his stomach mouth and still had an arm useable, it makes sense he didn't instantly do sure hit.
 
Mommyleona said:
bub, the domain strips his hwb because he cant maintain the handsign, thus he cant keep the output to resist the domain, normally no one cant do that since it makes both your hands busy, but Sukuna happens to have 4, just look at Reggie.
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What???

Mommyleona said:
so u saying Sukuna is so dumb he decided to drop his only defence against the domain, for absolutely no reason and just potentially die?
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?????

I'm so done with JJK supporters. It is literally stated why he dropped it. Time and time again I realize how serious leak culture destroyed ya.
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Mommyleona said:
and he would do that why? so sukuna would have a chance to attack or reapply hwb or what? your stance makes no sense
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Arkenis said:
This is Yuta not knowing how specific the world slash requirements are, that's why he says "Even if its a simple technique, he's forced to use chants, handsigns, or both." Since Sukuna still had his tongue on his stomach mouth and still had an arm useable, it makes sense he didn't instantly do sure hit.
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Arkenis said:
What???
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what what, what is there to not understand
Arkenis said:
I'm so done with JJK supporters. It is literally stated why he dropped it
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first of all, what we see is him releasing the handsign like right on the page, there's no reason for him to like fully cancel hwb, since it exists even without constantly holding the handsign, all he needed was to free his hands and mouth for the WCS
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which would mean it was just stripped away the moment he stopped doing the handsign
Arkenis said:
Time and time again I realize how serious leak culture destroyed ya.
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DUDE i didnt even read the manga at that time
 
Arkenis said:
Because Sukuna stop maintaining it.


No it's just being controlled precisely. He simply didn't use it right away because he wanted to keep pressing Sukuna so he can't do a handsign or chants, something Yuta brought up. This is Yuta not knowing how specific the world slash requirements are, that's why he says "Even if its a simple technique, he's forced to use chants, handsigns, or both." Since Sukuna still had his tongue on his stomach mouth and still had an arm useable, it makes sense he didn't instantly do sure hit.
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Why? Why can’t Sukuna launch the WCS and keep HWB? You’re arguing he chose to end the technique for what reason? It makes far more sense he just stopped maintaining output for the technique.

So you’re arguing Yuta is an idiot? He just chose not to use his surehit for several seconds because why?
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Why? Why can’t Sukuna launch the WCS and keep HWB? You’re arguing he chose to end the technique for what reason? It makes far more sense he just stopped maintaining output for the technique.

So you’re arguing Yuta is an idiot? He just chose not to use his surehit for several seconds because why?
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I just showed Leona why Sukuna ended HWB and I explained why Yuta didn't go straight for Sure hit.
 
yeah. Sukuna hwb only went down because Sukuna let it go down since he has to do a different hand sign for WCS since HWB has a different hand sign and Yuta, Yuji, and Yuta were recking Sukuna while he maintained the HWB handsign
 
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