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Base deku can dodge bakugo's explosions, which they in and of themselves are comparable to pure nitro. Want me to talk about some calcs? I can drop them here... Eren hasn't shown anything remotely close to that reaction speed.

Protip, nitrogelatin is 24000 fps...
 
Bakugo's explosions have already been brought up and debunked, Deku was Hypersonic because of them for a time but it was removed
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Bakugo's explosions have already been brought up and debunked, Deku was Hypersonic because of them for a time but it was removed
First fight between bakugo and mido

bakugo's explosion is point blank and mido pulls his left arm in time from his side to block. his left arm is 452 milimeters whereas, if we use a snails pace being point blank, mido is able to draw his arm up faster than something going 24000 fps can move a milimeter. Care for me to finish the calc?
 
Finish it if you want but unless you want it to be useable as an actual argument youre going to need to make a Content Revision Thread and argue that his speed should be changed and have it applied to the profiles as arguing using stats that arent on th eprofiles is against the rules here.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Therefir and Eren's hardening is durable enough that attacks that strong cant even scratch it
The Beast Titan's feat is only 1.41 tons.
 
Therefir said:
The Beast Titan's feat is only 1.41 tons.
Thet's the feat pre-timeskip eren's Hardening scales to, post timeskip Eren is that durable physically and far more durable with his hardening. He also scales above Annie's hardening that Levi and Mikasa couldnt cut through

Plus the feat Deku scales to is only .7x stronger
 
I don't like Eren's current explanation, "Tore the Jaw Titan's arm off and nearly killed it, Severely damaged the Warhammer Titan, though its body wasn't fully formed when he did so".

I thought we agreed that the Jaw Titan is 8-C+ only with its jaws and claws.
 
It is, the Jaw Titan is only 9-A+ physically but its still a feat nonetheless, plus Eren was able to force the Jaw Titan to crush Tybur's Hardening barrier with its jaws

I can add a part about how he's much stronger than his pre-timeskip self if you like
 
Deku also has a size advantage as they're roughly equal in AP and Speed Equal means equal speed, but Deku is a significantly smaller target. Just my two cents.
 
@WeeklyBattles But that's more like a lifting strength feat, for example, you are able to open a can with a can opener, but that doesn't mean you scale to the can opener itself.

And the Beast Titan is supposed to be strongest Titan minus the Colossal Titan right? Why Eren is now suddenly stronger than that, but still gets one-shotted by the War Hammer Titan, and is unable to break Tybur's Hardening barrier?
 
Thats not really a good analogy, a good comparison would be trying to open a can by crushing it with your hands and then holding two rocks in either hand and crushing the can between them to open it.

The Beast Titan isnt the strongest titan, only the most skilled, and considered deadly because of its rock throwing attack. Going by feats along the Warhammer Titan is stronger on top of being a Titan literally created for war, with the victor of wars in the past being decided by whichever side the Warhammer Titan joined
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Having good travel speed isnt all that helpful in an actual fight
It is when your only going to be using hit and run tactics.

Midoriya being faster and smaller is an advantage for him, he can navigate through smaller environments like buildings and subways in order to lose focus. Eren stomping and smashing through buildings would only cause more chaos making it more confusing for him since Midoriya would be long gone by then.

Once out of sight, Midoriya comes back and strikes the legs and runs away again. After a while Eren's hardening and general stamina will be his undoing. Eren will be hardly affected at first, but after a while he'll start to fatigue and eventually Midoriya will get through his legs immobilizing him. From there Eren pops out and Midoriya scores a win.
 
@Professor Even before he even started training was able to stay in his Titan form for hours, and that was pre-timeskip. He's been training for an additional three years during the timeskip, his stamina in his titan form has long since improved, as is the amount of Hardening he can use (although even before the timeskip he had to use a massive amount of Hardening in a short period of time before he got tired and had to rest). Midoria striking Eren's legs wont do anything when he doesnt have the AP to get past Eren's Hardening. Also Eren isnt stupid, if Deku tries to go for his legs it will likely work once and then Eren will figure out what Deku is trying to do and stop him as he has experience against the hit and run tactics of the Survey Corps who are much smaller and more agile like Deku is.

Also Post Timeskip Eren is about to be upgraded to High 8-C
 
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