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Yoriichi Tsugekuni (Kimetsu no Yaiba) VS Berserker Armour Guts (Berserk)
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So how strong is he? If you guess.
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at least 2 or 3 times higher than muzan, which is more powerful than the characters that make citi-block feats
600 tons
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That is not how it works
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someone asked me, and I simply answered him, and that is what I assume, since muzan is the one who gave the power to the demons and he is the most powerful, and he mentioned that yoriichi is superior to him, considering the superior word I would say at least that it is 2 or 3 times more powerful
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Yeah that isn't how it works, but that was just his opinion/guess.
But yes this wiki can only have him a unknown amount higher than 100 Tons and that is it. A 200 Ton character would still be stronger than him, though not by all that much.
But yes this wiki can only have him a unknown amount higher than 100 Tons and that is it. A 200 Ton character would still be stronger than him, though not by all that much.
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Yoriichi is 100 tons and Guts is 119 tons, the AP difference is in favor of Guts
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Well no upscaling does exist, we don't just ignore it. We just don't use it to rate characters too highly.
Doma is Baseline 100 Tons and is fodder to Muzan, who is fodder to Yoriichi.
Yoriichi makes fodder out of someone who is only slightly weaker than Guts. There is no denying that, Guts isn't massively stronger than Doma.
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I thought it was anyone superior to Doma who casually did an 8-B feat would be baseline 8-A
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I mean, Guts has a pretty high-scaling chain as well.
Considering he beat Mozgus while considerably weakened and tired while Mozgus was in his Apostle Form, which is vastly stronger than Mozgus in his human form, who actually did the 119 ton feat.
A fully healthy Guts would scale higher than this, and the Berserk Armor only makes Guts far stronger than before to the point he can begin dominating people who had previously completely stomped him into the ground.
So uh, that may not be enough, and I may be wrong in some areas, but that's Guts' scaling chain.
Considering he beat Mozgus while considerably weakened and tired while Mozgus was in his Apostle Form, which is vastly stronger than Mozgus in his human form, who actually did the 119 ton feat.
A fully healthy Guts would scale higher than this, and the Berserk Armor only makes Guts far stronger than before to the point he can begin dominating people who had previously completely stomped him into the ground.
So uh, that may not be enough, and I may be wrong in some areas, but that's Guts' scaling chain.
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Doma performed a 8-B+ feat casually, while weakened by a poison that was over 700X stronger than what is needed to kill a normal demon.
azontr
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So, ain't gonna really make an argument for Guts in the skill department, Yoriichi does kinda slap.
The main thing that is really gonna decides this fight is Guts' weapons, honestly. Yoriichi ain't breaking the armor or Dragon Slayer in a million years, that's for sure, but Guts also can't really hit Yoriichi due to Yoriichi possessing a skill advantage and having Transparent World which boosts his reactions.
Guts can't use his projectiles such as bombs or arrows to overwhelm Yoriichi since Yoriichi cut 1500 chunks of flesh of Muzan easily when Muzan exploded to escape death, so that's off the table.
But since Yoriichi can't really break Guts' weapons or injure him in any meaningful way due to the armor and Dragon Slayer, and Guts has a ridiculous stamina advantage in the Berserk Armor, I feel as though this is Guts' win, maybe.
While Yoriichi could dodge all of Guts' attacks and see him in slow motion, he wouldn't be able to get past Guts' defenses or really harm him in a meaningful way due to the Berserk Armor giving the guy practically limitless stamina and being beyond what Yoriichi could hope to break, until he loses literally all of his blood or has every bone in his body broken. Yoriichi can make Guts due neither, really. Guts has the ability to outlast Yoriichi pretty blatantly.
I vote Guts.
The main thing that is really gonna decides this fight is Guts' weapons, honestly. Yoriichi ain't breaking the armor or Dragon Slayer in a million years, that's for sure, but Guts also can't really hit Yoriichi due to Yoriichi possessing a skill advantage and having Transparent World which boosts his reactions.
Guts can't use his projectiles such as bombs or arrows to overwhelm Yoriichi since Yoriichi cut 1500 chunks of flesh of Muzan easily when Muzan exploded to escape death, so that's off the table.
But since Yoriichi can't really break Guts' weapons or injure him in any meaningful way due to the armor and Dragon Slayer, and Guts has a ridiculous stamina advantage in the Berserk Armor, I feel as though this is Guts' win, maybe.
While Yoriichi could dodge all of Guts' attacks and see him in slow motion, he wouldn't be able to get past Guts' defenses or really harm him in a meaningful way due to the Berserk Armor giving the guy practically limitless stamina and being beyond what Yoriichi could hope to break, until he loses literally all of his blood or has every bone in his body broken. Yoriichi can make Guts due neither, really. Guts has the ability to outlast Yoriichi pretty blatantly.
I vote Guts.
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Does the Berserk Armor itself not just kill Guts after a period of time? Since it keeps damaging his body and he keeps bleeding, I thought eventually he'd die on his own.
What is the longest Guts has lasting while actively using that armor?
What is the longest Guts has lasting while actively using that armor?
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The AP gap doesn't really matter given the Armor and Dragon Slayer have literally never even been dented by anybody in the verse, and only the tier 7's could even do so.
The problem, that I've just realized, is that Guts' armor literally kills him when he uses it lol. So Yoriichi wins, just, not the way I thought he would.
The problem, that I've just realized, is that Guts' armor literally kills him when he uses it lol. So Yoriichi wins, just, not the way I thought he would.
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Guts has been hurt while in the armor by some monsters so the armor doesn't matter much. Its never just protected him beyond being hurt at all. Iirc when he was in it and got caught by one of those whale monsters he started coughing up blood from the force so he's definitely capable of being hurt by others who scale to him while in the armor.
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Not being dented =/= Not being damaged
And Guts has a 0% chance of landing any hits with Yorii’s STW so it seems Yorii takes the dub
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Well I just debunked the armor never being dented for you.
azontr
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Isn't that the Sea God who was harming Guts with their heart beat lol.
chapter 270. Now granted Guts may have been weakened prior to this fight due to his last use of the armor but the armor itself shouldn't be weakened. Given See through world Yoriichi should have a easy time putting holes like this one into the armor.
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No its random whales morphed to be demon like whales. He fights several of them actually.
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Was that really necessary?
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well I believe scaling from Mozgus all the way to Grunbeld may give Guts greater ap but the differences are just vague or insignificant. Grunbelds like considered one of the strongest Apostles last I remember and Guts in the armor was beating him up pretty badly so if the calc is 119 tons and Guts scales to people who could beat people prior to the berserker armor Guts is likely two times stronger in the armor. Yorrichi's ap, if we take Doma's 700x nerf as a literal then Yorrichi easily out scales the armor and guts.
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Im thinking his Od protection can give him some benefit and the armors insanely good for allowing him to continue in battle but he's not unstoppable. Yoriichi likely overwhelms dude and ends up cutting through the demon slayer and his armor.
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praise the sun fra
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The potencial AP diference is just to big, even if Yourichii couldn't cut the armor the kinetic energy of the blows would eventually defeat the black knight
Not something that would make a big difference, but does the beast mouth in the berserk armor leads directly to Guts face? If so our demon slayer could win inserting the katana there, lol
Anyways, voting for Yourichii
Not something that would make a big difference, but does the beast mouth in the berserk armor leads directly to Guts face? If so our demon slayer could win inserting the katana there, lol
Anyways, voting for Yourichii
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Yes the opening does open to guts face. it grows into a wolf like face the more he fights or if it takes him over.
