Yhwach's Ap statement question

[Shootingkill]

Why does Yhwach's ap says that he is superior to Senna, who is non-canon? And if he does scale, wouldn't that make him Large Planet level since there's a calculation that put Senna around 6.27 yottatons?

 

[AppleLord]

He does not scale to a suicide attack.

The movie event came to pass in the manga universeIchigo mention's in the manga that he has been there before. Ichigo never went to that place in the manga, he only went in the movie. Shame everyone's memories are erase at the end of the movie, except Ichigo's who still remembered Senna. Author acknowledged the movie as reference material. This image is from Volume 69 of the Manga.

 

[Shootingkill]

This was what Lina Shields said in the thread:

Even if it is a suicide move, considering that Yhwach was able to combine three of these worlds similarly to what the goal of the villains here in this movie were doing? Yhwach would probably do something similar to this (as he was going to do so), thus he would scale directly from it.

Senna's suicide move stopped the fusion between the Soul Society and the human world, and pushed the planets back, thus she would scale directly to the feat where the two planets were going to collide with each other.

 

[AppleLord]

There's something wrong about this feat scaling. Yhwach controls the balance of the worlds through his own power/reiatsu. (Like Ki in DBZ or Chakra in Naruto.) The way he was going to destroy the worlds was one by one with his own reiatsu/power. (There is no feat to prove that he can destroy them all at once. Maybe he can by using the Almighty to get them all three at the same time. That could work as such.)

The black stuff Ichigo absorb through his sword here is Yhwach's reiatsu. Here Ichigo acknowledge his Quincy reiatsu to Orihime. And here he tells Yhwach that he use his own absorb Quincy reiatsu to transform into his hollow merged form.

Senna stopped the collision, not fusion of two worlds. Yhwach wasn't going to create a new one, until he had destroyed the original three first.

 

[Shootingkill]

Bump

 

[LordAizenSama]

@Applelord do you want to write a note maybe on the bleachverse page, and maybe fkr Yhwachs aswell exolaining the canon reasoning?

 

[AppleLord]

@Applelord do you want to write a note maybe on the bleachverse page, and maybe fkr Yhwachs aswell exolaining the canon reasoning?

Already done. I left it on your wall, if you want to add/remove something before adding it.

 

[AppleLord]

bump

 

[AppleLord]

Why does Yhwach's ap says that he is superior to Senna, who is non-canon?

Here is your answer.

 

[M11UTD]

Yhwach should be superior to anything Senna do, sucide attack or not he has the power of the Soul King that make him control the balanace of all souls trafic while Senna is just 1 fodder Shinenju.

 

[M11UTD]

tho for the planet level feat I think shikai Ichigo and Aizen should also scale to it, Ichigo as stated by Ichibei he can take the Soul King place to hold the balance of the worlds and Aizen obviously scales above shikai Ichigo since he has the highest reiatsu that's the reason of why he was a war potential.

 

[M11UTD]

sorry haven't check anything in this wikia for a while, just saw that Ichigo and Aizen already been upgraded

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Blanks Calcs should actually be linked to the Soul King profile, as he is the one who immediately scales to it.

 

[M11UTD]

so anyone going to explain why Yhwach doesn't scale to the suicide attack ?

 

[AppleLord]

so anyone going to explain why Yhwach doesn't scale to the suicide attack ?

Because Yhwach doesn't use suicide methods or chain reactions to destroy the worlds. He prefers to use his own power.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Suicide moves tend not to scale to any1 in most cases they are used

 

[M11UTD]

but his own powers aka Soul King's are over everything else in the verse especially over 1 Shinenju, so you think SK Yhwach who's holding the balance of the worlds and over countless of traveling souls http://www.*************/manga/bleach/v58/c615/17.html can't do something that Senna did ? that like implying if Senna was in the final arc she would've solo'd Yhwach with that attack

 

[AppleLord]

but his own powers aka Soul King's are over everything else in the verse especially over 1 Shinenju, so you think SK Yhwach who's holding the balance of the worlds and over countless of traveling souls http://www.*************/manga/bleach/v58/c615/17.html can't do something that Senna did ? that like implying if Senna was in the final arc she would've solo'd Yhwach with that attack

That's not true. Ichigo's power was beyond Yhwach's comprehension. And by his own power I mean Yhwach's reiatsu. I posted that above. Did you read it? Senna wasn't doing anything. She was force to do it. Is not a valid feat for her in character, unless she is bloodlusted.

 

[M11UTD]

That's irrelevant, it doesn't matter why Senna did it nor where EoS Ichigo stands in power that's not the point since the movie events take place right after SS arc, Senna is just 1 Shinenju out of many that Soul King's power keeps in hold , Yhwach as the Soul King and the absolute god tier of the verse should scale above everything like DC & speed especially when it's an explosion done by 1 character, unless you believe Senna has more power than the Soul King. the god tiers should scale to the feat or at least Soul King Yhwach

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

This is going absolutely nowhere. Nobody is scaling to a collective suicide move that has no way of reliably scaling to anyone.