Yhwach vs Joker

[Sonicflare9]

Ren Amamiya

Ren Amamiya was an ordinary high-school student. That is, until one evening, when he was unfairly convicted of assault while trying to stop a drunkard from taking advantage of a woman. Sent off to live with a family friend while attending Shujin Academy, he stumbles across the Metaverse after...

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Yhwach

Yhwach (ユーハバッハ, Yuhabahha?) is the Father of the Quincy, the monarch of the Wandenreich, and the son of the Soul King, known by the designation "A" - The Almighty. As a baby, Yhwach was incapable of sight, speech, or even the slightest movement, but never feared or despaired, as he knew he would...

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mid to late joker vs yhwach almighty

speed equalized

whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo would win

 

[Rikimarox2]

Fate manip is probably useless against Ren, so that's out.

However, idk if he has any passives, but what can Ren do against soul crush?

 

[manu_zarri]

i think this is a stomp in Ren favor. but idk for soul crush

 

[ElixirBlue]

Fate manip is probably useless against Ren, so that's out.

How so? Can't rule it out on a possibility.

 

[manu_zarri]

How so? Can't rule it out on a possibility.

as i remember if is for cognition stuff

 

[Rikimarox2]

How so? Can't rule it out on a possibility.

"Resistance to Fate Manipulation and Causality Manipulation (as the Trickster, Ren is unaffected by the predetermined fates that exist within the Persona verse, which binds even Type 4 Acausals)"

Not sure how potent it exactly is, but I don't think Yhwachs fate manip is this strong.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Sounds like that description was made with Sonic in mind

Fair enough

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Joker stomps, Yhwach can’t see his fate, and Joker resists his soul being hit on a conceptual level.

 

[Shmooply]

Joker gigastomps here.

 

[Daddybrawl]

’On a conceptual level’ isn’t really potency or power, it’s just also conceptual. At least, I’m 95% sure of that.