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Yhwach vs Funny Valentine

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Lucy is also protected with Love Train...? He can attack her all he wants, his sword will just keep bouncing off and the misfortune associated will go bye-bye. That's also assuming he lets Yhwach charge at her without fighting back with D4C.
 
Sooo.

Isn't this unfairly one sided?

Yhwach in this form has no answer to love train whatsoever,this is literally just making him fight and do nothing ultimately.

This would have been fair if yhwach had an answer to love train buut nooop lets all choose the weakest yhwach version cause why not.

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If I didnt believe that killing D4C would kill Funny this fight wouldnt take place.
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
Isn't he part of the entire love train jig?
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the stand can go outside the light and Funny was very scared when Johnny aimed at it while it wad outside so my conclusion was that Funny would be in trouble if D4C received damage.
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
Thats an assumption.

We dont use that in fights.
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See it for yourself

Cracks in D4C go to Funny, and no healing happens.
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
Thats an assumption.

We dont use that in fights.
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Lul it's a fact actually. I don't know if this is a stomp, Yhwach has the ability to kill Valentine I just don't think hell be able to do it. D4C is a strong stand. On the other hand I don't think Valentine can really paradox in this fight as that'd require putting Yhwach in between two objects, and with how fast and agile he is I doubt Valentine would get to do so, maybe if it rains. Valentine wins from out lasting Yhwach's stamina, victory via attrition. Even if we let Yhwach grab something to eat, he still needs to sleep. Even if he can manage to sleep, Valentine will outage him.
 
See it for yourself

Cracks in D4C go to Funny, and no healing happens.

Ignoring all the other scenes and the established canon ability though .

Also youre using act four? Litterally act four as your example? The stand that enfkicts damage that will last as long as time and cant go away .
 
@J-Man there is a difference between ignoring establishwd canon ability and saying that the ability has no limits like you are trying to say when it has shown some limits.

Act 4's damage is an infinite spin imbued into the body, random cracks produced by hitting the dimensional wall are non factor, you didnt see Funny spinning during the whole scene right? It was after he was punched by Act Four.
 
Also, hopping dimensions makes Love train disappear so if Funny tries to paradox Yhwach and finds another Tier 6 Yhwach, he is screwed as hell.
 
Which is quite literally what you're doing. Lt has shown and been established that being englufed and within the light removes and gets rid if your wounds which is the first act lt dud on panel even. It's also a plot point where funny attempts to persuade gyro to step and rid of his lethal wound by going into lt which gyro doesnt ultimately leading to his demise .

Said cuts were still a product of act four and the super spin and rotation (obviously seeing as the move and atack bypased lt unless ya think a normal attack can ) which heavily established being hit by act four will cause permanent damage that wont disappear and even diferent body change and universe hoping wont get ya away from the efect . Only being hit by act four again may get and negate the damage .
 
Although unless ya expect me to completely disregard the extremely heavily established and shown on panel power of lt then fine .

My point is provided and shown on panel.

Despite disagreeing what power that im debating isnt a hypothetical which has almost no basis . This power is shown and explicitly detailed .
 
PaChi2 said:
Also, hopping dimensions makes Love train disappear so if Funny tries to paradox Yhwach and finds another Tier 6 Yhwach, he is screwed as hell.
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False.

Funny can and had dimension hopped.

Hed leave lt while in the other dimension but when he comes back he would be within the light again .
 
False.

Funny can and had dimension hopped.

Hed leave lt while in the other dimension but when he comes back he would be within the light again .

Thats... my whole... point...? Funny doesnt have the light in the other dimension...? And if the Yhwach in the other dimension is tier 6...? And Yhwach himself can cross dimensions.
 
And Lucy steel isnt producing Light while Funny is absent so... Yhwach can destroy her while Funny is in another dimension.
 
Ywach cant cross dimensions at that amount of precision .

Unless ya think ywach can pick the exact universe funny goes and finds across the multiverse and follows him there despite literal infinite choices .
 
PaChi2 said:
And Lucy steel isnt producing Light while Funny is absent so... Yhwach can destroy her while Funny is in another dimension.
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False.

Lucy actually can and still has misfortune deflection without funny .

Even the full normal corpse does that as shown within jojolion .
 
Well, the other part of my argument stands.

>Funny leaves to use D4C and paradox = Lucy steel is unguarded and Yhwach destroys her. Funny loses Love train and Zanka no tachi vaporizes him when he comes back.
 
False.

Lucy cant be harmed when the stand of jesus activates . All damage would instantly get bfrd the only difference would be the range of bfr and wall lack of also excluding the fact funny can honestly bring Lucy with him when he uses d4c seeing as thetes literally a few dozen feats of him drawging objects and characters with him .
 
Frantzy12 said:
Zanka No Tachi has a country wide heat radius and over time has the potential to be even planetary.
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Ticket to ride at least let moved the atlantic ocean and does have planetary distance on range for the stand . The range is big enough .
 
The Holy corpse cannot leave the universe, its like a constant or something.

No? The corpse only exists within the base universe despite the corpse can be moved .

Funny himself had the main part the heart on him and moved often .
 
Now I wonder how Love train would interact with Ichibei's darkness' conceptual manipulation.

Light vs Darkness
 
PaChi2 said:
Lucy after Funny leaves

Moar Lucy

Still no light
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Youre exuding context. And completely ignoring the fact the misfortune deflection exists for Lucy even without the light . Which already was claimed above .
 
How? Unless ya think he can absorb souls from multiversal distances or excluding the fact lt would probably (obviously ) have that as misfortune and bfr the effect .
 
On a completely different note though found a panel that heavily dictates Johnny hides between the space of universes and at a infintasmal point (Johny vs monarch of pointland ) .
 
Use blood on Lucy.

Carve a schrift in her.

Still no misfortume, he didnt harm Lucy in any way.

Proceed to absorb Lucy's powers.
 
Frantzy12 said:
I was thinking of Sklaveri since it also absorbs barriers.
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Which one. Theres more than one . Its currently accepted be an amount of infinite gateways and dimensional walls . Plural . Meaning more than one . The only number given was a infinite amount .
 
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