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Yhwach being universal

"The collapse of the universe." Urahara

"Muken is a void that stretches for infinity"

Possibly.
 
I'm not saying this to argue for SK being universal, but was there a thread discussing Muken?
 
I read that thread and it just seemed like people were brushing it aside or saying shaking it is unquantifiable which it isn't, and as you said that thread wasn't really focused on it. I feel like it needs it's own thread to be discussed completely but at the same time I can already see the thread would be a complete mess, since you know, nobody would accept a bare minimum 3-A Bleach regardless of the evidence.
 
Purgy said:
I read that thread and it just seemed like people were brushing it aside or saying shaking it is unquantifiable which it isn't, and as you said that thread wasn't really focused on it. I feel like it needs it's own thread to be discussed completely but at the same time I can already see the thread would be a complete mess, since you know, nobody would accept a bare minimum 3-A Bleach regardless of the evidence.
yup and the thread was closed just because they didnt like the idea
 
Didn't Mustache Man say he was merging the Human world, Soul world and Hollows world?. What's this Muken place people are talking about?.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Didn't Mustache Man say he was merging the Human world, Soul world and Hollows world?. What's this Muken place people are talking about?.
Muken is a place where prisoners who can't die are imprisoned, this is where Aizen was sent to and where Kenpachi and Unohana had their fight, it is stated to be infinite in size. When the Soul King died, the dimensions were shaking and collapsing, Muken was also shaking, Muken being infinite in size.
 
Purgy said:
I read that thread and it just seemed like people were brushing it aside or saying shaking it is unquantifiable which it isn't, and as you said that thread wasn't really focused on it. I feel like it needs it's own thread to be discussed completely but at the same time I can already see the thread would be a complete mess, since you know, nobody would accept a bare minimum 3-A Bleach regardless of the evidence.
It is unquantifiable because the Muken is literally just a void with nothing inside it.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Purgy said:
I read that thread and it just seemed like people were brushing it aside or saying shaking it is unquantifiable which it isn't, and as you said that thread wasn't really focused on it. I feel like it needs it's own thread to be discussed completely but at the same time I can already see the thread would be a complete mess, since you know, nobody would accept a bare minimum 3-A Bleach regardless of the evidence.
It is unquantifiable because the Muken is literally just a void with nothing inside it.
There's a floor in there for one. Also, the shaking part was just to prove it's one of the dimensions the SK, Mimihagi and Yhwach were stabilizing.
 
Well the shaking part was being disputed in that other thread, but there being a single floor to suggest what very little matter was present inside Muken hardly matters when someone tries making it a feat.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Well the shaking part was being disputed in that other thread, but there being a single floor to suggest what very little matter was present inside Muken hardly matters when someone tries making it a feat.
iirc Goku was given a Universal rating for shaking the World of Void, and both these instances are very similar. The shaking in Muken when the SK died strongly implies he was maintaining it's existence and stopping it from collapsing. I'll admit that the entire thing is kinda confusing to me since I've never really debated feats like this before so if I'm wrong I apologize.
 
To be fair, in the World of Void's case I think it was because it was flat out infinite in size but then its size got debunked later via translation issues. It was also proven later that the void had time and space present within it (since Hit was able to use his time manipulation inside it and Grand Priest literally timing the whole tournament as well). Im 97% positive that was the case.

That being said, im not one to side with those kind of feats in gneral to be honest.
 
u guys were arguing how worlds can never be universe no matter what in FT CRT but now..................lol
 
Omimi said:
u guys were arguing how worlds can never be universe no matter what in FT CRT but now..................lol
What are you even talking about?
 
This should be closed .

Until we got the official translation of the novel , this thread serve no purpose .
 
Naeblis495 said:
This should be closed .
Until we got the official translation of the novel , this thread serve no purpose .
Just this^

The thread was answered and shouldve been closed a while ago.
 
AstralKing7 said:
I know exactly what he is talking about. Just go to the low 2C thread for Fairy Tail
I know he was talking about the 2-C thread obviously, the issue is that this thread and that thread have literally nothing in common, the feats aren't even similar, nor are we hanging on "world" meaning universe lmao? He obviously didn't even read the disussions in this thread and he first instinct was to try and clown on Bleach.
 
I know he was talking about the 2-C thread obviously, the issue is that this thread and that thread have literally nothing in common, the feats aren't even similar, nor are we hanging on "world" meaning universe lmao? He obviously didn't even read the disussions in this thread and he first instinct was to try and clown on Bleach.

Sekai
 
he first instinct was to try and clown on Bleach.

nothing new from u guys when ever someone talk against u guys immediately start to insult as always ................. sigh
 
100th Hokage said:
I know he was talking about the 2-C thread obviously, the issue is that this thread and that thread have literally nothing in common, the feats aren't even similar, nor are we hanging on "world" meaning universe lmao? He obviously didn't even read the disussions in this thread and he first instinct was to try and clown on Bleach.
Sekai
Okay? How is that relevant to Muken and it being infinite? Like what are you even arguing here? If your issue is with the world of void then go make a CRT about that because I don't care about it, and thinking something can't be accepted just because people disagreed with the FT thread is completely asinine.
 
I know he was talking about the 2-C thread obviously, the issue is that this thread and that thread have literally nothing in common, the feats aren't even similar, nor are we hanging on "world" meaning universe lmao? He obviously didn't even read the disussions in this thread and he first instinct was to try and clown on Bleach. Sekai
Okay? How is that relevant to Muken and it being infinite? Like what are you even arguing here? If your issue is with the world of void then go make a CRT about that because I don't care about it, and thinking something can't be accepted just because people disagreed with the FT thread is completely asinine.

This is to do with the semantics of sekai idiot not the muken
 
100th Hokage said:
I know he was talking about the 2-C thread obviously, the issue is that this thread and that thread have literally nothing in common, the feats aren't even similar, nor are we hanging on "world" meaning universe lmao? He obviously didn't even read the disussions in this thread and he first instinct was to try and clown on Bleach.
Sekai
Okay? How is that relevant to Muken and it being infinite? Like what are you even arguing here? If your issue is with the world of void then go make a CRT about that because I don't care about it, and thinking something can't be accepted just because people disagreed with the FT thread is completely asinine.This is to do with the semantics of sekai idiot not the muke
Don't call me an idiot, completely uncalled for. As I said, if your issue is with the World of Void being referred to as a World then go make a CRT to about it, you won't get far since iirc it's called infinite, just because people disagreed with the FT thread doesn't mean anything containing the word "Sekai" is automatically rejected now, these things are argued on a case by case basis with supporting evidence.
 
Sorry for hurting your feels. Also can you not quote long texts. I'm not saying it doesn't mean that only that the terming doesn't objectively mean universe, nor does it mean it is universal in size. This to not to do with the Muken. I'm just talking about the semantics of a sekai which is pretty much a dimension.
 
100th Hokage said:
Sorry for hurting your feels. Also can you not quote long texts. I'm not saying it doesn't mean that only that the terming doesn't objectively mean universe, nor does it mean it is universal in size. This to not to do with the Muken. I'm just talking about the semantics of a sekai which is pretty much a dimension.
Okay? So why are you bringing that up in this thread? This thread isn't about discussing The World of Void, I made a simple comparison due to how similar that and Muken are in terms of both being infinite and void, that doesn't mean the entire thread needs to be derailed so you can talk about Sekai and how people didn't agree with you in the FT thread.
 
I was just focusing on the term sekai not just to refer to the WOV but the semantics of the term as a whole and how it is used in fiction. For example bleach universe being referred to as a sekai etc. Of course it's relevant to the thread it's literally about the guy thinking it's a universe and equating that with universal size.
 
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