YHVH (SMT) vs Battler Ushiromiya (Umineko no Naku Koro ni)

[Aparajita]

Since the recent SMT upgrades, can The Most Evil God defeat The Endless Sorcerer?

Both 1-C forms, obviously.

Speed Equalized.

Victory by any means.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I think Battler wins that


He is superior to 9-10 Dimensional beings, while Anime Patrick Steward is 9-D at most (Correct me if i'm wrong), and The Golden Longsword can deny his existence, not to mention his Red and Blue Truths, but i don't know if they will be useful in this fight


Well, The Golden Head still has his techniques such as Word of God and etc, but i don't think they will be really effective on Battler, since he is possibly infinitely above him (9-10 Dimensional Vs 9-Dimensional at most, but again, correct me if i'm wrong)

 

[-BANLK-]

Bump.

 

[ShiningNeedleCastle]

(bump)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Not voting. Just seeing where this is going.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Voting Battler. He seems to have superior defensive and regenerative capabiities

 

[ToAruFan]

Battler. Even if both are on the same plane of existence (although I think Battler is slighlty higher) Battler still has far superior feats and hax.

 

[Gargoyle_1]

1C vs High 1C to 1B? Far higher via Hax? This is a stomp

 

[Zianmoon2]

If battler is on a higher plane of existence, this is obviously a stomp in his favor.

If it isn't, I see YHVH doing the usual. Voice of God, Miracle, all of his other Almighty/of God skills, buff/debuffing, etc. At the worst, this is inconclusive like the Zeed matchup was back when YHVH and Zeed were High 2-A's.

(Keep in mind, Battler's High-Godly regen doesn't apply to his base 1-C version.)

 

[Drellix]

Which 1-C YHVH? He has two versons.

And I'm going Battler. Endless Nine is just going to let him ignore everything YHVH throws at him. Plus, Battler is a higher dimensional being so YHVH can't even interact with him

 

[Kaltias]

YHVH is higher dimensional too

 

[Drellix]

1C vs High 1C to 1B? Far higher via Hax? This is a stomp

Battle has a "At least 1-C" version. I would ask you to make sure to look carefully before making a comment.

 

[Zianmoon2]

I don't see YHVH losing this. Almighty spells, voice of god, miracle, unending curse, etc.

 

[Drellix]

I don't see YHVH losing this. Almighty spells, voice of god, miracle, unending curse, etc.

Did you skip over all the comments stating he can't even interact with Battler? Battler is a higher dimensional being that YHVH can't even see. Plus, Endless Nine pretty much negates everything thrown at him.

 

[Zianmoon2]

Battler and YHVH should be the same dimension as Battler, and if he isn't, this is a stomp that needs to be closed. Almighty spells get past ALL defenses(not in a NLF) way. Voice of God does not care about immunities.

 

[Drellix]

Not against the Endless Nine. It can stop existence erasure abilities and even Gungnir. Even the Arrow's used by the Chiester Sisters couldn't penetrate it, which are supposed arrows that cannot miss and also bypass all defenses to kill their target. Endless Nine for Battler is 9 (complete immunity) times infinity.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I just find it funny how it was said "Not in an NLF way" when all that was done was describing nothing but NLFs.

 

[Zianmoon2]

Do you know where the Chiester Sister's page is? I can't seem to find it anywhere. If that's how potent Nine really is, I might have to concede right here. Well played, if this is it, we might see the first loss for YHVH.

Voice of God is not an NLF. We can easily see this with YHVH's 2-A version, where characters at the absolute peak of that tier still die to it. Almighty attacks do not care about defenses when fighting(except Endless Nine apparently, which seems to be some kind of 10-D defense for a 9-D character).

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

For starters, there's no "peak" of 2-A. It's an infinite tier. Don't get me wrong. YHVH is easily the strongest of his tier in pure AP and likely hax. But I made my point. Second. Beerus is a high level 3-A and we haven't seen anyone take his attacks without serious repurcussions. Yet he loses to a 5-A. Finally, ignoring all immunities in itself is an NLF.

 

[Drellix]

Their page has not been made. And regardless, Voice of God does not ignore defenses. It's just unavoidable. Plus, it has no way of dealing with a passive shield that protects against conceptual weapons of a much higher dimensional plane than him.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

"Endless nine negs"

 

[Zianmoon2]

Very well. I'm sorry if the discussion derailed the thread even a little bit, but I came out knowing more than I came in with. No hard feelings, cheers. Thanks to the points of Drellix and The real cal howard, for the first time, I can say "I'm changing my vote from YHVH" to Battler.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Of course. Don't worry. I don't take fictional fights that seriously. No harm in the slightest. Besides. Neither side did anything remotely close to pissing the other off.

 

[Drellix]

All good. As long as you come out more educated, it's a win for me.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I don't see YHVH losing this. Almighty spells, voice of god, miracle, unending curse, etc.

Did you skip over all the comments stating he can't even interact with Battler? Battler is a higher dimensional being that YHVH can't even see. Plus, Endless Nine pretty much negates everything thrown at him.

No, both YHVH and Battler are 9-D, they are on the same dimensional level

 

[Zianmoon2]

Endless Nine makes Battler win this. Too much for 9-D characters.

 

[Amexim]

Pretty sure Battler takes this. Better stats, plus seems that he has resistance to death hax while Yaweh doesn't seem to-- if you right off a lack of mudo insta-kill as game mechanics. Confident that his hax would work on Yaweh, especially since his ultimate sin weakness (which I suspect means blasphemy or resisting God's Will). Stat buffs Don't matter that much with hax...

 

[ProspectX]

Battler for reasons above, YHVT 0: 8 Battler.

 

[Extreme123dz]

Battler shoul take this by more Hax and the Endless Nine can resis even Allmighty attas of YHVH, and battler can no dien even in existence errasure/conceptual kill, he will regenerate.


Allmight Attaks in SMT are no NLF, they can Bypass All Kind of resistence, Bariers, shields, Like Null/Repel/Void/Absorb, same to Pierce but in a higher degree, but in SMT in the Main Line and Spinoff exist the Allmight resist (see Masakados and Devil Survivor 2 for a example)

 

[Scarletmoon56]

I also vote Battler for reasons above.

Battler has 10 votes. This can be added now right?

 

[Kaltias]

I requested it

 

[ProspectX]

CONCLUDED.