Yan Sen Plot Manipulation Removal

[Wanz1111]

Plot Manipulation with Creation (Henry's character design makes him infinitely stronger than any opponent, even if that opponent comes from another story. He will continue to be invincible. His character design will always keep him alive and Yan Sen can create other Henrys with the same powers as Henry [3])

I believe his Plot Manipulation should be removed. Based on the scans he does not clearly demonstrate the ability as defined. I feel like him creating the “settings” is more of a specific power rather than control over the narrative itself. He doesn’t show the ability to alter the fundamental plot or view reality as fictional.

 

[KingNanaya]

I disagree with the thread

 

[Wanz1111]

I disagree with the thread

How is this relevant?

 

[SweetDao]

How is this relevant?

Yan Sen's power is copying the character design of Henry, which is something clearly more fundamental than simply making a clone of him since Yan Sen seems unable to learn or get the ability of Henry.

Until he fought Henry, he had no idea about what a "character design" was, despite showing the ability of creating clones of himself or making clones of his deceased sect members.

Henry states that "no matter the story, book, comic from where Yan Sen comes, he'll still remain invincible in this place". "This place" being this story, obviously.

This seems metafictional enough personally.

 

[Wanz1111]

That still doesn’t align with Plot Manipulation.

 

[SweetDao]

I mean, if you want to remove "plot manipulation with creation" and put instead "Creation (On a narrative level)", be my guest, the end result is more or less the same.

 

[KremcikGorv]

As far as I remember, Henry continues to get stronger through the setting, that is, the plot, and this is a strengthening that is strong enough to keep up with Yan Sen's transition from normal human size to a large size type 10 form, and Yan Sen also create a stronger setting, that is, the plot, so it is normal to get plot creation hax.

 

[Floxiaaa]

First of all, I will explain why Yan Sen got plot manipulation by creating Henrys. When Henrys fight each other, they tell each other that they are getting stronger. This is completely related to the setting and Henry's plot manipulation. Because no matter what the story is, no matter who the opponent is, he will be infinitely powerful. Since Yan Sen's created Henrys have this ability, there is no harm in Yan Sen getting plot from here. So I don't agree with this CRT.

 

[Floxiaaa]

I mean, if you want to remove "plot manipulation with creation" and put instead "Creation (On a narrative level)", be my guest, the end result is more or less the same.

I don't think it is possible to remove plot manipulation through creation, because there are obvious feats.

 

[SweetDao]

I don't think it is possible to remove plot manipulation through creation, because there are obvious feats.

Those are just a change in phrasing anyway, he wouldn't lose "plot manipulation" technically.

 

[Floxiaaa]

Those are just a change in phrasing anyway, he wouldn't lose "plot manipulation" technically.

Sure

 

[Floxiaaa]

I feel like him creating the “settings” is more of a specific power rather than control over the narrative itself.

Yan Sen says that he can't kill him, so he uses his ability to create settings. So this is the same as creating Henrys, because Henry says that he is the setting. Therefore, whatever rights the setting has, Yan Sen must have them too.

 

[Wanz1111]

the setting, that is, the plot

Scan?

This is completely related to the setting and Henry's plot manipulation. Because no matter what the story is, no matter who the opponent is, he will be infinitely powerful.

Sounds more like Reactive Evolution or Accelerated Development.

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

the argument of @SweetDao Looks interesting, I'll stay neutral for now.

 

[Floxiaaa]

Scan?

Sounds more like Reactive Evolution or Accelerated Development.

No? It has nothing to do with improved evolution. The setting said that no matter who the person is against him, he will become infinitely stronger. The plot thing is this. He can replace the strongest person in the story. I should explain this situation as follows. In order to change this, the story itself needs to be changed. That's why Henry gets the plot. This has nothing to do with development. No scan says this, on the contrary, it says that the setting will write him infinitely stronger. In other words, no matter who the story is, he will manipulate it again and come to the top. Yan Sen adds these features to Henrys when he creates them. He needs to have this power to add this to them. And the story itself changes. Henry is not the strongest. Someone equal to him comes. And the fact that he cannot come to the top of the story means that the story itself is manipulated.

 

[Floxiaaa]

And even if this is accelerated development, there is no reason to remove plot manipulation via creation.

 

[Floxiaaa]

the argument of @SweetDao Looks interesting, I'll stay neutral for now.

I know that you cannot tag anyone if you are not a staff member.