Would that be problematic?

[SweetDao]

So, I vaguely, somehow, found my way to a certain series of novels. It's not "extremely famous" but it has been bought and reviewed by a lot of persons, so popularity wise, it should probably be fine.

The problem, however, is that in the last couple volumes (merely glanced at them diagonally) it uses very specific verbiage such as this:

Spoiler: Stuff 1

[Infinity is meaningless.]

[No matter if they are uncountable or countable.]

[It is all the same.]

[An uncountably infinite number of incalculably infinite universes is just an empty string of words.]

[We can limit infinity. Move it as we please. An infinite universe looks as small as an infinitesimal dot.]

[That is what it means to be transcendental.]

[That is what it means to be “real.”]

Once again, the topic of the difference between reality and fiction came up.

Can you explain it better?

Ulvir also spoke.

[It is exactly as you think. It is the same gap between yourself and characters from an ordinary book. No matter how many superlatives the author uses or how powerful the characters are, they are just that. Characters. Fictional, insignificant characters.]

The Chaos beings agreed.

[To the First Star and us, what you are living is a mere story.]

[No matter how much your stats grow or how powerful your Skills get, you will never get any closer to reaching us.]

[Even if your stats’ values reached infinity, the distance would not decrease.]

[It is the inherent limitation of a fictional construct.]

Or this, arguably even more sus:

Spoiler: Stuff 2

The distance of reality and fiction. No matter how many fictional infinities are stacked, it won’t ever reach the size of a real person.

As such, I wondered if that would be acceptable according to our standards?

 

[Digital_Franz]

So, I vaguely, somehow, found my way to a certain series of novels. It's not "extremely famous" but it has been bought and reviewed by a lot of persons, so popularity wise, it should probably be fine.

The problem, however, is that in the last couple volumes (merely glanced at them diagonally) it uses very specific verbiage such as this:

Spoiler: Stuff 1

[Infinity is meaningless.]

[No matter if they are uncountable or countable.]

[It is all the same.]

[An uncountably infinite number of incalculably infinite universes is just an empty string of words.]

[We can limit infinity. Move it as we please. An infinite universe looks as small as an infinitesimal dot.]

[That is what it means to be transcendental.]

[That is what it means to be “real.”]

Once again, the topic of the difference between reality and fiction came up.

Can you explain it better?

Ulvir also spoke.

[It is exactly as you think. It is the same gap between yourself and characters from an ordinary book. No matter how many superlatives the author uses or how powerful the characters are, they are just that. Characters. Fictional, insignificant characters.]

The Chaos beings agreed.

[To the First Star and us, what you are living is a mere story.]

[No matter how much your stats grow or how powerful your Skills get, you will never get any closer to reaching us.]

[Even if your stats’ values reached infinity, the distance would not decrease.]

[It is the inherent limitation of a fictional construct.]

Or this, arguably even more sus:

Spoiler: Stuff 2

The distance of reality and fiction. No matter how many fictional infinities are stacked, it won’t ever reach the size of a real person.

As such, I wondered if that would be acceptable according to our standards?

Yeah it's cut and dry. Both scans show that no matter how much power is added by a non 1-A character (inferioir being), it will never reach a 1-A character (superior being).

 

[SweetDao]

Yeah it's cut and dry.

No, yeah, but like, would it be acceptable to add on the wiki?

 

[Digital_Franz]

No, yeah, but like, would it be acceptable to add on the wiki?

Yeah. I don't see why no. Just do a CRT on it when you have everything.

 

[SweetDao]

Yeah. I don't see why no.

I think we have some precautions against work that might be influenced by powerscaling or if the author is a powerscaler himself. I don't know about the latter assertion, but the former seems to be somewhat holding up.

The story seems nice though, so I'll probably read it regardless, but the fact it's more or less straight up 1-A definition seems... sus. I'll wait what other people or staff might have to say about this.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I think we have some precautions against work that might be influenced by powerscaling or if the author is a powerscaler himself.

Yeah it's true that it's a rule here. However I don't think his description of the thing is necessarily inspired by powerscaling. Unless he's a powerscaler I don't find a problem currently.

 

[Berga14]

So, I vaguely, somehow, found my way to a certain series of novels. It's not "extremely famous" but it has been bought and reviewed by a lot of persons, so popularity wise, it should probably be fine.

The problem, however, is that in the last couple volumes (merely glanced at them diagonally) it uses very specific verbiage such as this:

Spoiler: Stuff 1

[Infinity is meaningless.]

[No matter if they are uncountable or countable.]

[It is all the same.]

[An uncountably infinite number of incalculably infinite universes is just an empty string of words.]

[We can limit infinity. Move it as we please. An infinite universe looks as small as an infinitesimal dot.]

[That is what it means to be transcendental.]

[That is what it means to be “real.”]

Once again, the topic of the difference between reality and fiction came up.

Can you explain it better?

Ulvir also spoke.

[It is exactly as you think. It is the same gap between yourself and characters from an ordinary book. No matter how many superlatives the author uses or how powerful the characters are, they are just that. Characters. Fictional, insignificant characters.]

The Chaos beings agreed.

[To the First Star and us, what you are living is a mere story.]

[No matter how much your stats grow or how powerful your Skills get, you will never get any closer to reaching us.]

[Even if your stats’ values reached infinity, the distance would not decrease.]

[It is the inherent limitation of a fictional construct.]

Or this, arguably even more sus:

Spoiler: Stuff 2

The distance of reality and fiction. No matter how many fictional infinities are stacked, it won’t ever reach the size of a real person.

As such, I wondered if that would be acceptable according to our standards?

The autor seams to ended up knowing powerscaling recently and he decided to put it into the recent volumes. The second this is basically word to word to some Ultima's comments. How old is the second thing?

 

[SweetDao]

The autor seams to ended up knowing powerscaling recently and he decided to put it into the recent volumes. The second this is basically word to word to some Ultima's comments. How old is the second thing?

Around 2023 to early 2024

 

[Berga14]

Around 2023 to early 2024

I guess you need to check who the autor is, like the autor from Mage something(forgot the name) openly powerscaled his characters on tiktok

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

As such, I wondered if that would be acceptable according to our standards

https://cdn.**********.com/emojis/888598717526052894.webp?size=96

Jokes aside, I think it would be a problem if the volumes those scans are from were released recently after the tiering system overhaul

 

[Hasty12345]

looks like the author copy-pasted the tiering system into the character dialogue

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Isn't that rule only about people from this wiki?

The autor seams to ended up knowing powerscaling recently and he decided to put it into the recent volumes. The second this is basically word to word to some Ultima's comments. How old is the second thing?

 

[Lycoris4812]

You're really going to add it to vsbw? Cool. I think it's fine as long as there's no concrete proof the author is a powerscaler. And about the date, it might not matter since authors usually take a lot of time to write a book. So it could have been written way before 2023-2024. (I'm not a writer, so don't take my words as true)

 

[SweetDao]

Isn't that rule only about people from this wiki?

It is, but I think it's more about people we know are powerscalers, here it's kinda ambiguous. It's also something that only happens in the last volume/for the Finale, much like how AWLBA goes ballistic in the last arc/fight.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

You're really going to add it to vsbw? Cool. I think it's fine as long as there's no concrete proof the author is a powerscaler. And about the date, it might not matter since authors usually take a lot of time to write a book. So it could have been written way before 2023-2024. (I'm not a writer, so don't take my words as true)

Like the rule isn't about thw author being a power scaler it's about someone from this website making it

 

[Chariot190]

I think we have some precautions against work that might be influenced by powerscaling or if the author is a powerscaler himself. I don't know about the latter assertion, but the former seems to be somewhat holding up.

The story seems nice though, so I'll probably read it regardless, but the fact it's more or less straight up 1-A definition seems... sus. I'll wait what other people or staff might have to say about this.

Thats for shit like Suggs. A good handful of modern shit dips into power scaling brainrot like comics. Like nobody is gonna toss Invincible TV show in the trash because they know about powerscaling and put a lil bit in here or there.

Though, I will say, it has to be actually kinda relevant otherwise this very well might fall into the "suggs" category.

 

[Berga14]

Isn't that rule only about people from this wiki?

Nop, not necessarely. Is enought that the autor is a power scaler and put a lot of it in his work

 

[Mr. Bambu]

What's the verse?

Nop, not necessarely. Is enought that the autor is a power scaler and put a lot of it in his work

This is accurate, for the record, it's the current justification for not indexing Suggsverse. He has never used our wiki, but his works are considered to be deliberately abusing the general powerscaling ideologies enough that it's not usable. Was also a part of the reason for SCP's deletion, although that's more complicated.

 

[SweetDao]

What's the verse?

https://www.goodreads.com/series/337257-rise-of-the-last-star

Hopefully I don't have a problem putting a direct URL

 

[SweetDao]

There's also the amazon page: https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CTRRCTLB?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tkin

 

[Mr. Bambu]

It's certainly pushing it in terms of notoriety, I think. A few hundred ratings on any given site isn't tons, although it's also a lot different than other media sources we review these things by. For what it's worth, I passed along the review counts to Agnaa, and he said he was inclined to allow it for 500 on a single entry (the highest here being 496).

I would not be surprised if this ends up getting deleted, but without knowing shit about it aside from what's available publicly and online, it seems to meet the absolute barebones minimum requirements.

 

[SweetDao]

It's certainly pushing it in terms of notoriety, I think. A few hundred ratings on any given site isn't tons, although it's also a lot different than other media sources we review these things by. For what it's worth, I passed along the review counts to Agnaa, and he said he was inclined to allow it for 500 on a single entry (the highest here being 496).

I would not be surprised if this ends up getting deleted, but without knowing shit about it aside from what's available publicly and online, it seems to meet the absolute barebones minimum requirements.

Actually, I was first and foremost a webnovel it seems, available on RR : https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/44015/rise-of-the-last-star-a-litrpg-adventure

Problem is, since the chapters were deleted, we can't know for sure the total amount of views it had.

Although the problem was never really the notoriety itself, since well, if it isn't accepted so be it, it's more about the content showcased in the OP

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yeah, it's definitely a decidedly problematic verse. Hence why I find it likely it will at least spark calls for deletion (presuming people find it at all). Still, I think it's probably fine based on this alone- we don't ban stuff for having dogshit writing (we still have kingdom hearts on here after all)

 

[BoastJr]

I think its fine and dandy. Invisible Dragon ended up here and it was just goofy.

Just anything like Novas Laos and Auren should be immediately booted. I hate fake powerscaling fantasy driven brainrot