Worst DB Villian vs Best DMC Villian

[Ogbunabali]

The AP gap between Low 2-C and 2-C isn't infinite, it's unquantifiable. That's why you can't backscale from from it.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Really ? I saw many people saying it was infinite lol

Well, back to the normal, I guess, thanks Ogbu

 

[AKM sama]

Still an unquantifiably massive gap between the AP of both characters. Jiren does win this with the power of one shot...or one glare.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

"Massive"

Isn't unquantifiable ? We need to go by their scalling chain, which is on Vergil's side

 

[AKM sama]

No amount of scaling from a baseline feat can make you comparable to the strongest Low 2-Cs. Plus A<B<C scaling can be highly subjective ranging from a 2x gap or a 200x in many cases.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

DMC doesn't have a Baseline feat, it's a feat unquantifiable higher than that

Your A<B<C example can be applied to DB too

 

[AKM sama]

Doesn't change anything with respect to this thread since Jiren is among the strongest Low 2-Cs as far as sheer AP is concerned.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

If Jiren is unquantifiable higher than anything Low 2-C, how this is even a fight ?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Better remove any match with any DBS character where AP is even a remote debate, since everyone in DBS apparently AP oneshots all of Low 2-C

I have a huge amount of skepticism about the DBS scaling, but I'll get into that when I'm off work.

 

[AKM sama]

I only pointed out the flawed logic being used in this thread that somehow a scaling chain can make a character stronger than someone who is already in the upper echelon of an unquantifiably large tier. That's not how it works.

As for the matches, the ones that are able to somehow avoid being AP stomped using other ways such as potent hax are still valid and won't be removed.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Yeah, going to ask on VS Threads removal, since Dante and Vergil have some fights against DB characters

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

DB isn't that high on low 2-C last time I checked and being backscaled from a 2-C feat is possibly?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I only pointed out the flawed logic being used in this thread that somehow a scaling chain can make a character stronger than someone who is already in the upper echelon of an unquantifiably large tier. That's not how it works.
As for the matches, the ones that are able to somehow avoid being AP stomped using other ways such as potent hax are still valid and won't be removed.

"Flawed logic" when we were using scalling chain for both of them ? Because those posts were ignoring "being close to Low 2-C" since nobody from DB said something about that until Aguila came here

I also don't understand how that is enough to give Jiren an lolhuge AP advantage, since it's unquantifiable just as Argosax's feat is into Low 2-C, and when it comes to sheer scalling, Vergil would have an advantage

 

[AKM sama]

DB isn't that high on low 2-C last time I checked and being backscaled from a 2-C feat is possibly?

Not everyone. What I said, applies to only a few characters and Jiren is one of them.

 

[Ted_Ed]

Wait, is there anything Vergil can do to prevent being stared?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Having a comparable AP? I haven't seen anything that makes Jiren having a ''massive'' AP advantage beyond a questionable backscaling that probably needs to be clarified on a thread lf it's own.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I totally agree with Tony here, and even with that, both of them scale to something unquantifiably higher than baseline