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Endbringers, Alexandria, and Scion should have power null resistance.
Direct Evidence for Endbringers:
Post 2nd trigger Grue engulfs Behemoth in his darkness, can't just disable and steal all his power and Behemoth fights his way out of it.
Radiation negation is a separate effect
Grue engulfs Behemoth once again, yet it's ultimately Scion's blasts that take Behemoth out.
Speaking of Scion, every main endbringer has survived attacks from him, with him having nullification tacked on to a lot of stuff he does. Scion's kinda weird though, so this is mostly supplemental.
Leviathan:
Behemoth:
Simurgh:
Back to Behemoth, Citrine doesn't seem able to use the full scope of her abilities on the endbringer, despite being able to reduce his attacks all the way down to a survivable level and stop him from redirecting Alexandria's hits. The feats of her working are on her profile and can also be read here (no redirection), here (attack null), and here (attack dampening). However, we should take note of the things she can do to others that she would have no reason not to do if they were possible vs endbringers. She can directly kill people, remove their control over their powers, remove their resistances, disable physical powers and do it real fast. None of these came to pass against Behemoth despite her being shown to be able to actually affect him to some extent, as well as her having more than enough time even if you discount the ward feat, as she said that it never takes more than 20-30 seconds for the more out there effects. As such, the most reasonable conclusion is just that she can't do that.
Now, the Simurgh. Ward spoilers ahead.
Late into Ward, Grue's power has shifted again, and this time it's just straight up nullifying/dead zones. No more power theft, powers just do not work in his areas and cannot be tapped into by people in his areas. He engulfs the Simurgh and the Simurgh doesn't just lose.
Late into Ward, a lot of characters become Titans. The Titans are bad for reality, and as such these cracks start to form. Among many other things, these cracks disable powers. Of these titans, Contessa is the only one to be able to properly control them. She's stuck in a stalemate with the Simurgh. Why not use these against the Simurgh? Well, it seems to somehow just be the worst possible outcome. Directly attacking The Simurgh is seen to somehow end in a Simurgh victory.
Contextual evidence for Endbringers:
This part is an explanation of the various ways that the narrative doesn't really make sense without endbringer null resistance. Ordinarily I wouldn't consider things like this to be strong enough to give abilities and resistances off by themselves, which is why I'm not doing that and also included direct instances. However, even without that, I believe that Parahumans has a better case to be made than most for using this sort of narrative argument. Worm is well regarded for being tightly written in normal person circles, these organizations that are combatting the endbringers are competent and often have special assistance via thinker powers, the Endbringers have been around for years and have killed hundreds of millions of people, and the Endbringers are already established as enough of a threat that everybody can pitch in regardless of alignment and use their abilities in ways they might not normally because humanity can't afford to hold anything back against these threats. As such, I don't think the normal excuses of it being a writing error or someone forgettng about their powers really make much sense. Anyways, let's begin.
Direct Evidence for Alexandria:
Alexandria is fine to touch and get partially stuck inside Echidna without getting nullified. It ultimately takes Echidna using clones to duplicate herself to completely envelop Alexandria to trap her. Nobody else except for Weld could really risk physically touching Echidna, and most powers don't work on Weld either.
Echidna disables powers on contact, allowing her to absorb capes more easily.
Scion, who at this point is very mad and using Path to Victory (meaning it wouldn't make much sense for him to just be ******* around) takes a while to kill Alexandria's body.
Alexandria's in the Grue cloud since she's in close combat against Scion.
Contextual Evidence for Alexandria:
Direct Evidence for Scion:
This one's actually already on his page as "Trumps can't copy his abilities" and a power mimicry resist, but it's also a null resist because that trump in question was Grue. Quote's above for the Alexandria resist.
Conclusions:
Endbringers, Alexandria, and Scion should resist power nullification.
Endbringers, Alexandria, and Scion should have power null resistance.
Direct Evidence for Endbringers:
Post 2nd trigger Grue engulfs Behemoth in his darkness, can't just disable and steal all his power and Behemoth fights his way out of it.
Radiation negation is a separate effect
Grue engulfs Behemoth once again, yet it's ultimately Scion's blasts that take Behemoth out.
Speaking of Scion, every main endbringer has survived attacks from him, with him having nullification tacked on to a lot of stuff he does. Scion's kinda weird though, so this is mostly supplemental.
Leviathan:
Behemoth:
Simurgh:
Back to Behemoth, Citrine doesn't seem able to use the full scope of her abilities on the endbringer, despite being able to reduce his attacks all the way down to a survivable level and stop him from redirecting Alexandria's hits. The feats of her working are on her profile and can also be read here (no redirection), here (attack null), and here (attack dampening). However, we should take note of the things she can do to others that she would have no reason not to do if they were possible vs endbringers. She can directly kill people, remove their control over their powers, remove their resistances, disable physical powers and do it real fast. None of these came to pass against Behemoth despite her being shown to be able to actually affect him to some extent, as well as her having more than enough time even if you discount the ward feat, as she said that it never takes more than 20-30 seconds for the more out there effects. As such, the most reasonable conclusion is just that she can't do that.
Now, the Simurgh. Ward spoilers ahead.
Late into Ward, Grue's power has shifted again, and this time it's just straight up nullifying/dead zones. No more power theft, powers just do not work in his areas and cannot be tapped into by people in his areas. He engulfs the Simurgh and the Simurgh doesn't just lose.
Late into Ward, a lot of characters become Titans. The Titans are bad for reality, and as such these cracks start to form. Among many other things, these cracks disable powers. Of these titans, Contessa is the only one to be able to properly control them. She's stuck in a stalemate with the Simurgh. Why not use these against the Simurgh? Well, it seems to somehow just be the worst possible outcome. Directly attacking The Simurgh is seen to somehow end in a Simurgh victory.
Instead, the optimal path is to do the exact opposite, and hold the cracks back.
I don't think it makes sense to say that the simurgh would somehow just avoid them if they were tried, I think they'd have to not work. The reason I have for this point of view is that one way or another, they managed to get Valkyrie, who has mobility that is superior to the Simurgh at that point in time. Doormaker to hop between universes, a lot of mover capes to get moving, Eidolon to hop between universes, teleport, fly quickly, etc. Whether it's via the cracks just being really fast, or really persistent, or something else entirely, Valkyrie wasn't able to avoid one and she's far better equipped to avoid attacks than The Simurgh. As such, for striking out with the cracks to result in a failstate, the only conclusion would be that the simurgh would not be affected by their weirdness, which includes power null.
Contextual evidence for Endbringers:
This part is an explanation of the various ways that the narrative doesn't really make sense without endbringer null resistance. Ordinarily I wouldn't consider things like this to be strong enough to give abilities and resistances off by themselves, which is why I'm not doing that and also included direct instances. However, even without that, I believe that Parahumans has a better case to be made than most for using this sort of narrative argument. Worm is well regarded for being tightly written in normal person circles, these organizations that are combatting the endbringers are competent and often have special assistance via thinker powers, the Endbringers have been around for years and have killed hundreds of millions of people, and the Endbringers are already established as enough of a threat that everybody can pitch in regardless of alignment and use their abilities in ways they might not normally because humanity can't afford to hold anything back against these threats. As such, I don't think the normal excuses of it being a writing error or someone forgettng about their powers really make much sense. Anyways, let's begin.
- Post 2nd trigger, Grue can steal powers, which is shown to include physical powers like durability all the same. The Behemoth fight shows that it's definitely possible to get an Endbringer completely engulfed within his power, even without sticking him in a helicopter or using movers. Grue participates in Endbringer fights. If his null worked, then the Endbringers should have been dealt with long ago.
- Citrine can disable powers and kill people with their own powers. She has a similar case to Grue, but with the additional bonus of marrying into Cauldron via Number Man. With Cauldron being the near omniscent group they are with Doormaker and essentially infinite resources at their disposal, it would make absolutely no sense for them to have just Citrine'd all the Endbringers to death by now through portals, unless this was just simply not an option.
- Eidolon displays power nullifying abilities, his power gives him "whatever he needs," and he's one of very few people who has actually inflicted legitimate harm to an Endbringer and could theoretically take one out. He's forced them to retreat by himself in the past. Given he's actually a threat to the Endbringers, I think it means something that he never just gets null powers given to him during these fights.
- The Yangban (China) have nullification waves in their arsenal. They aren't as cooperative as the others, but they still end up fighting Endbringers on their own, in defense of China. As we know from how Endbringer attacks were set up to avoid String Theory, Simurgh isn't sending them out to somewhere where they're in legitimate danger that isn't from Eidolon or Scion. Therefore, their nullification can't be viable against Endbringers.
- Bonesaw has access to power nullification through a variety of vectors, and late into ward ends up creating a plague that could eliminate every single parahuman, even those with super nonstandard or nonhuman physiologies. By Ward, she's willing to play ball with the others. The possibility of her creating something that could help against the Simurgh is never considered by anybody, including potent Thinkers like Tattletale who were able to get information on Endbringers through their power before, so it doesn't really seem like she can.
- Foil very early into Worm is considered possibly the next big thing, since her power could theoretically take out an Endbringer. This is very rare and she notes that this puts a lot of pressure on her. Null trumps are nowhere near as rare as the likes of Sting. For this sort of fanfare to come of Foil, especially with her ability being harder to use than a lot of null trumps who don't really need to aim, null trumps must not be considered viable against Endbringers.
Direct Evidence for Alexandria:
Alexandria is fine to touch and get partially stuck inside Echidna without getting nullified. It ultimately takes Echidna using clones to duplicate herself to completely envelop Alexandria to trap her. Nobody else except for Weld could really risk physically touching Echidna, and most powers don't work on Weld either.
(Note that the last one definitely would have killed Alexandria if the null worked)
Echidna disables powers on contact, allowing her to absorb capes more easily.
Echidna's also noted to be as strong as Leviathan by Tattletale, which her profile reflects. Leviathan is physically strong enough to restrain Alexandria.
This is relevant because it proves an explanation for why Alexandria can stay stuck. Getting engulfed by two things about as strong as Leviathan at once should simply be sufficient to trap her.
Scion, who at this point is very mad and using Path to Victory (meaning it wouldn't make much sense for him to just be ******* around) takes a while to kill Alexandria's body.
Alexandria's also noteworthy because she's like an Endbringer in that it takes more than an instant for Scion to laser beam them to death.
Similar situation to the Endbringers she's compared to, I'd say. Stilling works but not as well. Stilling's already the second best null behind Sting's ability to ignore defensive powers, so that's fine.
Alexandria's in the Grue cloud since she's in close combat against Scion.
Contextual Evidence for Alexandria:
- Echidna had post 2T Grue clones, and they weren't all killed before Alexandria showed up. Didn't get used against her, though Echidna isn't a thinker.
- Taylor doesn't think the Undersiders could deal with Alexandria, and mentions she's not sure if Grue and Imp's powers would work on her. Link here.
Direct Evidence for Scion:
This one's actually already on his page as "Trumps can't copy his abilities" and a power mimicry resist, but it's also a null resist because that trump in question was Grue. Quote's above for the Alexandria resist.
Conclusions:
Endbringers, Alexandria, and Scion should resist power nullification.
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