With All(o)y's Like These - Gladion + Silvally (Pokemon SM) VS Tora + Poppi (XC2)

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Gladion

Gladion is a former member of the Aether Foundation and the son of Lusamine. He originally lived in harmony with his family in Aether Paradise until he noted his mother's obsession with the Ultra Beasts. Realizing the Ultra Beasts would bring ruin to Alola should they be released, Gladion left...

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Tora (Xenoblade)

Tora is a main playable character in Xenoblade Chronicles 2. He is a Nopon who longs to be a Driver, but failed to resonate with a Core Crystal. So he finished his ancestors' work in creating an artificial Blade named Poppi. He joins Rex and Pyra on their journey after meeting them in Torigoth...

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Gladion has access to Silvally + All Memories, but is locked into one of them the second he commits to it.

Tora has access to Poppi QTpi, but sticks to default elements when the Poppi forms are received (Alpha: Earth, QT: Fire, QTpi: Ice)

No prior knowledge. Premise being that Gladion has turned up in Torigoth, with Silvally mistaken for a blade. Silvally is already out of the ball when he walks into Torigoth (amendment seen below).

Both 6-A

Speed Equalised.

Who wins?

Also yes I'm bumping my pun for this matchup

 

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bump

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ok, so, what exactly stops Gladion from trowing Silvally using a random attack against Tora?

 

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trowing

?

 

[StrymULTRA]

?

...trainers can launch the Pokémon from the Balls while telling them to attack, so the Pokémon can already use said attack against the opponent immediately after being getting out from the Ball

 

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...trainers can launch the Pokémon from the Balls while telling them to attack, so the Pokémon can already use said attack against the opponent immediately after being getting out from the Ball

OK let me amend the premise.

Silvally is already out of the ball when he walks into Torigoth, no send/withdrawal required. You can interpret this as any distance apart if you want.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Still doesn't answer the main question. What stops it from one-shotting?

 

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Still doesn't answer the main question. What stops it from one-shotting?

I just wanted to see if anyone wanted to scale QTpi to Phneuma for whatever reason (yes, I have been in those discussions before). Also I specify Elemental, well... specifics, in the event someone wants to argue that XC2 types follow the same logic as Pokemon types (IMO they don't, but I get the sense that someone will say that Water Memory doesn't stomp).

 

[StrymULTRA]

I just wanted to see if anyone wanted to scale QTpi to Phneuma for whatever reason (yes, I have been in those discussions before).

For that you need a CRT.

Also I specify Elemental, well... specifics, in the event someone wants to argue that XC2 types follow the same logic as Pokemon types (IMO they don't, but I get the sense that someone will

I hope you do realize is NLF against a gap between Tier 6 and Tier 3.

 

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For that you need a CRT.

I hope you do realize is NLF against a gap between Tier 6 and Tier 3.

Aight I'll amend the OP at 6-A each.

 

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Aight I'll amend the OP at 6-A each.

You can't do that. Especially if Gladion isn't even 6-A to begin with.

 

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You can't do that. Especially if Gladion isn't even 6-A to begin with.

Where does it say I can't? I made a similar amendment for Reyn vs Jaune Arc equalized to 7-C (ironically just as Jaune was getting put there), and no one cared.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Where does it say I can't? I made a similar amendment for Reyn vs Jaune Arc equalized to 7-C (ironically just as Jaune was getting put there), and no one cared.

Weekly was clearly joking there. Also, citing the Rules:

Match-ups with equalized statistics (with the exception of speed) are not allowed, as they turn the entire tiering system unnecessary.

 

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Match-ups with equalised statistics (with the exception of speed) are not allowed, as they turn the entire tiering system unnecessary.

So does equalising any stat at all. You're just constricting MU potential without the obligatory 'statstomp' pejorative.

 

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So does equalising any stat at all. You're just constricting MU potential without the obligatory 'statstomp' pejorative.

You're blaming me when the rules clearly say that you can't equalize any statistic except speed. Anyway I'm asking to close this as is just a stomp.

 

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