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i mean, the rule doesn't say which proof was used in the past, this is new right?
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Why Goku Is low2C?
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Hasty12345
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It's very arguable as to if the multiverse in DBS is 2-C.
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the profile states that separated space times are affected by time travel in db, using the Room of Spirit and Time, but i don't think we ever saw this room being affected, which makes me confused
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Honestly Beerus shouldn't also be Low 2-C because much like with Zamasu, there's no proof he'd destroy time as well when U6 and U7 will get destroyed in the clashes with Champa. And yes, it's possible to destroy more than 1 universe without affecting time since the tiering system gives High 3-A to those that can bust infinite amount of universes but only the space in them. If anything they'd probably all be 3-A
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too bad there is rules against making such changes
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There is no rule that states you can't do those changes unless if you have pretty new evidence, then you can do it.
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good to know
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btw i made a thread questioning it, but i think i posted in the wrong forum by accident, how do i move it to questions and answers?
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You request the thread moderator to move it for you.
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ok thanks
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Prove that
Gilad_Hyperstar
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This is false. Gowasu and Zamasu returned with the time ring to the past (aka the present) after they vistied Planet Babari in the future.
Gowasu and Shin also went back to the present timeline after being in the future timeline to avoid Zeno's erasure
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it doesn't allow you to go to the past of your current "present" as shown with goku black when he needed a time distortion of the time machine to get to the past in the beginning of the black arc
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Said who? The future timeline wasn't the timeline of Goku Black. Goku Black was the Zamasu of the the main timeline who changed into Goku's body.
Also, there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to travel into the past regardless of the timeline. Again, Gowasu and Zamasu did exactly that when they visited Babari's future in their own timeline. Gowasu didn't traveled to Trunks' timeline or another one there since no new ring was created. I would like to see scans where Black explicably says that the time ring can only travel you to the future and not to the past as well
Besides, Black had no reason to go into the present timeline before Trunks time traveled. He went there to chase Trunks when he traveled there. He had no need to go back anymore because when he destroyed the machine he believed Trunks wouldn't return. And in Goku and Vegeta's second return to the past Trunks fought Black so he didn't go there
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whis here you can't time travel to the "past" you can only go back to your "present"
not exactly, they went to the future and then returned to the present, as explained by why above you can't go to the "past" of your current "present" only to the "past" of your "future" aka your current "present", kinda confusing by i think i explained clearly enough
it was shown that he was able to went there because of the distortion created by the time machine
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It's literally explained in the Anime how the Time Ring works by Whis. Is that it allows one to travel to the future and then return to their present so they can do actions for preventing the future from coming to pass.
Also, we literally have discussion rules about the whole 3-A Zamasu or upgrading Low 2-C cast to 2-C. Or better yet downgrading Xeno from his 2-C position or upgrading him to anything higher than 2-C. It's been discussed so many times and it shouldn't be possible to merge with other timelines without merging with the space-time continuum of origin. "Becoming one with the universe" was stated before he finished manifesting and he later manifested and merged with the entirety of universe 7 including space-time. Also, the universes having similar flows of time =/= evidence being included in the same space-time continuum and it was agreed "timelines" in DBS are Brane timelines including individual sub timelines Low 2-C individually. Each universe has their own afterlife and possibly their own versions of RoSaT not effected by timeline shenanigans despite being located in Universe 7 or 6 respectively.
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Gilad_Hyperstar
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Fair enough. I stand corrected
Proof? There's literally no proof he merged with time as well. There's also no way anyone there could know if he merged with time too or not
Merging with the universe can also be possible without time as well, especially when there's zero proof Zamasu merged with time
My argument has nothing to do with the other universes. Regardless of how it works, if Zamasu didn't merge with time in U7, he's not Low 2-C no matter how you slice it
Few things:
1) The afterlife is only spatially disconnected from the rest of U7, not temporally. Time passes normally compared to the living realm there as shown in the Saiyan, Namek/Frieza and Buu Saga. Even in DBS too whenever Goku visits King Kai's planet
2) Proof that the RoSAT isn't affected? We never see it in any other timeline so how can you even know if it was affected or not???
3) Time travel doesn't actually travel to the past. It creates an alternate timeline that is causally disconnected from the main one. This was explained many times in Z and in Super we see that this extends to the other universes, so "affecting" other timelines doesn't mean Low 2-C. And even then, Future Zeno didn't touch the main timeline yet Zamasu was fully erased
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but how do we know he got to that point? we see his face appearing in the main timeline, but wouldn't this just proves dimensional travel?
if they have different space times, then they would have different causalities and thus not be affected by any means of time travel, right? like, the explanation in the profile doesn't explain how different space times can be affected by time travel in other space times, the one example it gives(being the time chamber) is, as far as i am aware, not even shown to be affected, the explanation just says that they are affected without explaining why this proves that they are other space times, if there is a better explanation then it should be explained better on the profile
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