Why doesn't vs battle wiki define boundlessness like this

[Tyrone_Dawson]

This is the way I define true boundlessness...

Boundless refers to entities who transcend all systems of measurement, logic, or metaphysical limitation.

These beings are not merely unquantifiable due to scale or complexity, but because their very nature invalidates quantification itself.

They exist beyond mathematics, dimensions, narrative law, existing outside the limitations of their own story or setting, and even the concept of existence.

They are not “infinite” in the numerical sense, but absolute — existing in a state where infinity, zero, and finitude hold no meaning. They stand outside all frameworks, including those of reality and meta-reality.

Key Characteristics

• Beyond Mathematical Comprehension: Cannot be measured, compared, or represented by any quantity, number, or value. Their existence collapses the meaning of “greater” or “lesser.”
• Meta-Transcendent Existence: Operate beyond all hierarchies of cosmology, including the notions of reality, unreality, existence, and nonexistence.
• Absolute Infinity (Ain Sof): Represent the philosophical concept of “the infinite without end or boundary,” not as an endless quantity, but as the absolute absence of limitation.
• Beyond Causality and Duality: Not governed by cause and effect, time and space, creation and destruction, or any dualistic concept.
• Aseitic and Self-Contained: Exist purely by their own nature (aseity). They do not depend on any source, creator, or origin — they are the origin and the end simultaneously.
• Reality-Defining: Rather than existing in reality, these beings define or encompass the totality of all realities, including the conceptual frameworks that contain them.

There is a way deeper explanation that I have, but I was just curious why this wasn't the explanation.

 

[Elyartaker]

It's defined something similar to this, even more.
Please read the omnipotence page.

Omnipotence

Omnipotence, in its most common composition, is defined as the ability do to all things. It is usually accompanied by other attributes – Omnipresence and Omniscience. In more analytic terms, Omnipotence might be formulated as "X is Omnipotent iff, should X will a certain state-of-affairs Y, Y...

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[Tyrone_Dawson]

It's defined something similar to this, even more.
Please read the omnipotence page.

Omnipotence

Omnipotence, in its most common composition, is defined as the ability do to all things. It is usually accompanied by other attributes – Omnipresence and Omniscience. In more analytic terms, Omnipotence might be formulated as "X is Omnipotent iff, should X will a certain state-of-affairs Y, Y...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Even the way y'all describe omnipotence implies some limitation. The way omnipotence is actually omnipotence is with these natures

• Exists before all other Forms
• Is the source of all intelligibility and existence
• Makes existence possible
• Defines the framework that all things rely on
• Is beyond being (“καθ᾽ ὑπεροχὴν οὐσίας” — “beyond essence”)
• Grounds logic and existence instead of obeying them

Like Plato's "The Form of the Good" is described

• Exists necessarily
• Is the pure actuality behind all potential
• Moves everything without being moved
• Is the source of all change and existence
• The final cause that precedes all potential and all ontological frameworks

Like Aristotle’s “Unmoved Mover”

• Beyond Being, beyond Mind, beyond Soul
• The source of all reality by emanation
• Absolutely simple and indivisible
• Not limited by logic or contradiction

Like Plotinus's "The One"

• The highest reality is beyond all names
• Beyond affirmation and negation
• Beyond contradiction and identity
• Beyond being and non-being

Like Pseudo-Dionysius described

• ipsum esse subsistens (Existence Itself)
• contains no potentiality (only actuality)
• defines logic, truth, possibility

Described by Thomas Aquinas

Hegel argues that contradiction is not a flaw but the engine of reality and of the Absolute.

• The Absolute (God) contains contradiction within itself.
• Logic itself “sublates” (aufheben) contradiction into higher unity.
• Pure Being and Pure Nothing are identical in the Absolute.

There is much more to true omnipotence than that which is described in the Vs Battles Wiki's omnipotence page.

There is more to it than even what I described here.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

All those natures won't even be sufficient to define omnipotence. Otherwise, it won't be Omnipotence.
Hence, why philosophers try their best to describe it as much as they can, but there is not one true, correct interpretation that is better than the others

Lastly majority of what you just listed is on that page
so you're incorrect to assume we somehow put limitations just because the page also described the Logical Omnipotence

 

[SuperNova55555]

Even the way y'all describe omnipotence implies some limitation. The way omnipotence is actually omnipotence is with these natures

• Exists before all other Forms
• Is the source of all intelligibility and existence
• Makes existence possible
• Defines the framework that all things rely on
• Is beyond being (“καθ᾽ ὑπεροχὴν οὐσίας” — “beyond essence”)
• Grounds logic and existence instead of obeying them

Like Plato's "The Form of the Good" is described

• Exists necessarily
• Is the pure actuality behind all potential
• Moves everything without being moved
• Is the source of all change and existence
• The final cause that precedes all potential and all ontological frameworks

Like Aristotle’s “Unmoved Mover”

• Beyond Being, beyond Mind, beyond Soul
• The source of all reality by emanation
• Absolutely simple and indivisible
• Not limited by logic or contradiction

Like Plotinus's "The One"

• The highest reality is beyond all names
• Beyond affirmation and negation
• Beyond contradiction and identity
• Beyond being and non-being

Like Pseudo-Dionysius described

• ipsum esse subsistens (Existence Itself)
• contains no potentiality (only actuality)
• defines logic, truth, possibility

Described by Thomas Aquinas

Hegel argues that contradiction is not a flaw but the engine of reality and of the Absolute.

• The Absolute (God) contains contradiction within itself.
• Logic itself “sublates” (aufheben) contradiction into higher unity.
• Pure Being and Pure Nothing are identical in the Absolute.

There is much more to true omnipotence than that which is described in the Vs Battles Wiki's omnipotence page.

There is more to it than even what I described here.

I know u js spouting AI brainrot because not even something like The One is “beyond logic or contradiction”. It’s not even a thing applicable to substantiality to begin with.

And why would you necessitate being “beyond Being” when Pure Esse is only beyond accidental Being; it definitively is just Being itself.

Also, Hegel’s Absolute Spirit wouldn’t even be Tier 0 to begin with because it would harbor internal multiplicity, nor would a Tier 0 experience flux like it does.

 

[Tyrone_Dawson]

Says the one who can’t spell correctly, and it’s not AI bro so you can shut it. I really don’t care to deal with internet trolls today.

I asked a simple question and that’s it. Now respectfully f-off. I also already said this is not all that is used to define omnipotence.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Says the one who can’t spell correctly, and it’s not AI bro so you can shut it. I really don’t care to deal with internet trolls today.

I asked a simple question and that’s it. No respectfully f-off.

Internet slang = can’t spell

Alr bro.

Also, I will naturally accuse you of AI or smthn like that because only people whose entire exposure to philosophy is ChatGPT or tiktok Powerscaling would make mistakes like this

 

[Tyrone_Dawson]

Internet slang = can’t spell

Alr bro.

Also, I will naturally accuse you of AI or smthn like that because only people whose entire exposure to philosophy is ChatGPT or tiktok Powerscaling would make mistakes like this

The only mistake here is you, I didn’t ask for your vacuous opinion and I didn’t ask for opinions I asked why it’s not defined differently that’s all. Your limited mind and knowledge wouldn’t understand that though. Have a great rest of your day.

 

[SuperNova55555]

The only mistake here is you, I didn’t ask for your vacuous opinion and I didn’t ask for opinions I asked why it’s not defined differently that’s all. Your limited mind and knowledge wouldn’t understand that though. Have a great rest of your day.

Yo, it’s not my fault you write your posts like AI. You’re just being randomly aggressive. I intentionally used softer words like “brainrot” because I wasn’t tryna be unnecessarily mean

 

[Tyrone_Dawson]

Yo, it’s not my fault you write your posts like AI. You’re just being randomly aggressive. I intentionally used softer words like “brainrot” because I wasn’t tryna be unnecessarily mean

And you just randomly insult people who are asking a simple question.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Don't get into fights with random people on the internet.
It is not worth it. You'll just stress yourself with such interaction

 

[Tyrone_Dawson]

Don't get into fights with random people on the internet.
It is not worth it. You'll just stress yourself with such interaction

Ya, I really don’t care anymore. I was moody this morning when this guy said all this, but it’s whatever. Thanks for your help.