Kumo desu ga Volume 13 revisions

[Bernkastelll]

volume 13

context: White was surprised of Shun (Yamada) skill that allows him to bring people back to death, but she also implied that she could do the same, so, she need to have Resurrection as one of her abilities

edit: a far more blatant statement that I just read right now, white said that Gulie can revive people and literally said that she can do it too

 

[Bernkastelll]

volume 13 already can be found in amazon, released by official translators, so, it's not fantranslation if someone wants it to be clarified

 

[Confluctor]

Sure, ig. Seems fine

Also what verse is this?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Sure, ig. Seems fine

Also what verse is this?

Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?

For detailed information about this series from the Kumo Desu ga, Nani Ka? Wiki (So I'm a Spider, So What? Wiki) you can click here. In another world, an unending war rages on between the hero and the demon lord. When their great magics collide, they explosively tear through into our world and...

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[Bernkastelll]

I also want to add immortality type 1 to her

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[Bernkastelll]

High regeneration to Goddess key

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[Bernkastelll]

Hacking, she can hack the system of the world

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[Confluctor]

Will go through them in a bit

 

[Bernkastelll]

Bump

 

[Confluctor]

High regeneration to Goddess key

scan:

Hmm. Sure ig? Tho maybe put it as possibly since her other Regen aren't as good, right?


Rest seems fine

 

[Bernkastelll]

Hmm. Sure ig? Tho maybe put it as possibly since her other Regen aren't as good, right?

Wdym?

 

[Confluctor]

Is this for the character whose Regen is mid or ...?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Is this for the character whose Regen is mid or ...?

Kumoko (Light Novel)

If I can't win in a fair fight, why not just make it an unfair one? Kumoko is the Protagonist of "Kumo desu ga, Nani ka?" A girl who lost her memories after the dimensional magic released by a fight between the Hero and Demon Lord of another world killed her and her entire class in modern day...

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[Confluctor]

Ah, I was looking at the WN files. so downgrading her Regen?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ah, I was looking at the WN files. so downgrading her Regen?

Nah, thats for the second Key (High 6-A), she lost all her skills after Deification, including her Immortality skill, but she still keeps the knowledge of the immortality skill properties, so, even without immortality skill, she can regenerate unless she is destroyed in atomic level, it does not affect her previous key, because her previous key was stated that the only way to getting rid of her regeneration is due erasing her soul

 

[Confluctor]

I see I see. Should work then

 

[Bernkastelll]

Bump

 

[DontTalkDT]

I took the liberty of changing the thread title as the changes proposed are about more than resurrection. And I added categories. Always add categories.

It should be noted that Shiro admitted that she could only resurrect people in worlds with something like the system.

But divine power can manipulate even life and death. It’s kind of unsettling, seeing D’s ridiculous power on display like this. I mean, it’s not like I couldn’t bring back the dead. But that’s only in this world, where the system exists.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.135). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

I agree with all you have brought up, except hacking. Hacking is about computers and stuff. What Shiro is "hacking" is conjuring, i.e. a spell, so I don't think it counts. One could argue it is something like limited power modification instead.


And since you already made this thread regarding Volume 13 changes, let me just add my stuff on top of this (I could also move it to a separate thread, though, if you prefer):

Energy absorption​

She should have limited energy absorption. Honestly, we could have added that when she ate the bomb, but this illustrates it too:

When I send the corpse into my storage dimension, it gets eaten by my little clones, and they absorb its energy.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.23). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Curses / Mind Control​

Shiro can cast curses that control others

As punishment to Vampy for getting Phelmina banished and all that, I put a little curse on her. When I say sit! she has to get down on her hands and knees. It’s super handy whenever I need to punish Vampy for screwing up something or other.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.35-36). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Information Analysis​

Limited information analysis for being able to analyze the system and its functions, which means analysis of spells.

As punishment to Vampy for getting Phelmina banished and all that, I put a little curse on her. When I say sit! she has to get down on her hands and knees. It’s super handy whenever I need to punish Vampy for screwing up something or other.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.35-36). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Mind Control 2​

Mind control again, but this time spider style.

Then, once he could no longer move, the other hand lightly touched Hugo’s forehead. And a tiny white spider small enough to fit on your fingertip crawled down the hand and into Hugo’s ear… Seconds later, Hugo’s body started convulsing. Just like that, his eyes rolled back and he passed out. Yes, it’s quite a disgusting story all right… Even now, as he saunters along brimming with confidence, that little spider is in his head… Hugo doesn’t seem to remember that incident, but ever since then, he’s been strangely obedient whenever I tell him to do something. So that spider must be brainwashing him…

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.54-55). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Teleport feat​

Not a new ability, but increasing the potency of one she has. Shiro can teleport entire armies.

Even I realize this is a seriously big ask. I guess I’ll just have to teleport the whole army past the human territory by myself…

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.95). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Healing magic counters mind control​

As the title says. This is of interest as Arachne Kumoko has maxed out basic healing magic and should hence be able to do this.

And if someone tries to force them to snap out of it with Healing Magic or something, it’ll be more difficult the longer they’ve been in the brainwashed state.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.123). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Can sense teleportation​

I thought this was already on the profile, but I think it actually isn't.

And if someone tries to force them to snap out of it with Healing Magic or something, it’ll be more difficult the longer they’ve been in the brainwashed state.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.123). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Hiding presence​

Shiro can hide her presence to some degree, which should give her some degree of stealth mastery.

Taking the utmost care not to be noticed, I hide my presence and watch him. He doesn’t move, either, probably sensing what’s inside the castle.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.130). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Clone details​

We get a lot of details on clones that can be added. For a start we get a number of thousands for the spy-ders.

I mean, they’re palm-sized spiders that aren’t easily detected. Unless you’re specifically keeping a close eye out for them, they’re incredibly hard to spot. And I’ve got them scattered across the world by the thousands, making my own super-powerful information network.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.171-172). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

They also resist all detection skills in the system, which are a lot.

First of all, improving on my mini-mes. You know, the information-gathering clones I unveiled during the big war. Basically, I took the palm-sized spider clones I created initially and made them stronger. They’re still the same size, but they’re stealthier, immune to any detection skills, and can even transmit everything they see and hear right back to me. I expanded on that feature even more during the war so that they can now transmit those images to special monitors, too. They’re like super-efficient self-driving mega-cameras! I scattered thousands of them all over the planet, using them to gather all kinds of information in real time.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.193). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Shiro can simultaneously control thousands of these clones. We also get the rundown on their abilities which can more or less just go unto the profile as is.

So I was simultaneously operating a few thousand spy-ders while doing all this, right? And that’s while producing a bunch of battle clones at the same time. As you might imagine, battle clones are mini-mes that are meant to be used for fighting instead of spying. Unlike the spy clones, they come in different shapes and sizes depending on their purpose. First, we’ve got the mass-produced all-purpose battle clones! These guys are about three feet in size. They look more or less like me in my Zana Horowa days, the form I evolved into right before arachne. Basically, a white body with scythes for the two front legs. And they’re just about as strong as I was back then, too. They shoot lots of magic—I guess it’s technically conjuring now—they use Evil Eyes like crazy, and they counter with the scythes if an enemy gets too close. They’re fully loaded with thread and poison, too, of course. As you can gather from the fact that I called them mass-produced, I’ve got lots of these all-purpose battle clones. How many? Well, that’s a military secret. Next up is the queen taratect clones. That’s what I sent in against Julius the hero during that war. They’re clones I made based on Mother, the “bigger boat”-level huge ones, that crush things with the sheer power of their giant bodies. Honestly, their overall capabilities aren’t that much higher than the all-purpose battle clones. But since they’re physically so much bigger, they cost a lot more to make, which means I’ve only created a handful. Finally, there’s my aces in the hole: the space-specialist clones. As the name implies, they specialize in spatial conjuring. They’re the same palm-sized shape and appearance as the spy clones, but their abilities are on an entirely different level. They can create other dimensions, erode the fabric of space—crazy stuff like that. Since becoming a god, I’ve developed an incredibly high aptitude for spatial conjuring for whatever reason, and these clones are loaded up with the culmination of all that progress. They can slice through space to remove heads and whatever else. Without some way of countering that, no enemy stands a chance against these space-specialist clones. I mean, they could teleport your torso right off the rest of your body. Even if you try to run away, they can tamper with space itself, so there’s nowhere to go. The only way to counter them would be by meddling even further with my spatial meddling; you’d have to be at least as good at it, and probably better. In system terms, I think even maxing out Dimensional Magic, the evolved form of Spatial Magic, wouldn’t be enough to save you. In other words, it’s basically impossible to oppose me for anyone who operates within the bounds of the system. Damn, I’m strong. Waaay too strong. These battle clones generally exist in a separate dimension created by the space-specialist clones.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.193-195). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

That gives Shiro poison (they key didn't have it yet apparently) and a few more space manip techniques, like teleporting something into pieces, spatial cutting and cutting off a path via space manip.

For completeness sake there is then also the system clone:

Anyway, I’ve got one more kind of clones, a pretty weird type. These ones are very much related to a different job I’ve been working on in addition to my job as a commander. These clones are called system-related clones. I assume you can piece that one together. Basically, these clones have various tasks related to the system. My ultimate goal is to destroy the system and use the energy released to rejuvenate this world. There’s a lot of thorough preparation involved, as you might imagine. And to do all that preparation, I’ll need to understand the workings of the system down to the tiniest detail. This is a make-or-break gamble with the fate of the world on the line, after all. You can’t be too careful, even to the point that it might seem borderline paranoid. So even in the early stages, I’ve put a ton of extra work into investigating the system. Between my job as a commander and all that clone work, I was seriously busy for sure. But honestly, it’s this system investigation that’s taken up the bulk of my resources. The fact that I created clones for this specific purpose should tell you just how much effort I’ve been putting into this.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.196). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Although they don't do much.

Erasing skills​

Soooo....

all the keys anyway. Man, though, Ms. Oka really overdid it. Out of all the ruler privileges, erasing skills eats up an especially large portion of your soul. Normally, that should have done some serious damage to her soul, enough that she could’ve lost a bunch of skills and had her stats seriously lowered in the process, too.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.206). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Apparently, all rules can do the skill erasure thing. Since they all are informed of what they can do with their authority as well, that isn't even just theoretical.

When you get your ruler authority confirmed, a list of things you can do is basically installed in your head, but this was most definitely not on that list.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.201). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

That would apply to Arachne Kumoko then, as she has a lot of ruler skills.

Black Spear​

Just a small addition to her darkness magic.

With no time to turn around, I just shoot a Black Spear at it from my back. It doesn’t exactly look awesome, but I can produce conjurings from anywhere on my body!

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.223). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Didn't have spear type projectile listed yet.

Space techniques​

Some new techniques for her space manip are mentioned.

Spatial Separation! I cut off the space all around me, creating a cube-shaped void barrier. Since the entire space is separated, no physical or magical attacks can pass through. You’d have to be on my level of spatial conjuring expertise to get in from the outside. In other words, it’s practically invincible. The only downside is that it blocks out all light and sound, too, meaning I can’t tell what’s going around outside, either. At any rate, this will protect me from enemy attacks.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.225). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Ah, but first… I produce a Spatial Separation wall right in front of me. Then the speed shadow slams right into it. If you keep trying the same attack over and over in such a short time, I’m gonna get used to it no matter how fast you are, dummy. The speed shadow collides with the Spatial Separation wall at the height of its impressive speed and absorbs all the recoil to boot. A normal wall would probably absorb part of the impact, but this is an actual separation in the fabric of space, not a physical wall. If you crash into it, you’re taking every bit of that impact right to the face.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.227). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

The healer shadow splits in two. I used Spatial Separation to cut it in half. Since I’m messing with the fabric of space itself, it’s physically impossible to defend against. You’d have to be at least as good with spatial manipulation as I am, or else the only thing to do is dodge. But I’m very confident in my spatial abilities, and there’s no way to tell it’s coming, making it next to impossible to sense or predict and dodge. In other words, it’s a completely unfair attack that basically insta-kills as soon as it’s activated.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.229). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Charm resistance​

I guess this is like limited resistance to social influencing... although it probably has some supernatural aspects too.

…Ahh, I get it. It’s some kind of charm attack. The type that’s supposed to make the target do your bidding. Which means those poses really are meant to look cool… I guess they’re supposed to enhance the charm effect or something. But I’m a spider, and I’m not super interested in an interspecies romance… Plus, I’m a god, too, remember? Gods are supposed to be perfect beings on their own, which means they don’t really need to reproduce. Plus, they hardly ever die. The point of reproduction is usually to pass your genes down to future generations, right? But gods don’t have a life span, and death is a foreign concept for deities, meaning they can just carry on just fine without reproducing. And romantic feelings are theoretically linked to reproduction, and the effect of Charmed is a status condition that appeals to those romantic feelings, sooo… Basically, what I’m saying is that charm effects don’t really work on gods…

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.236-237). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Stamina feat​

For her deity self, since we had none yet. Fighting for several days.

It’s like my own personal thousand-year war. Okay, it hasn’t actually been a thousand years, but a few days actually have passed since this battle started.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.245). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Rot Revisions​

Well, this is a big one (well, except the regen upgrade). This concerns how we treat rod and those that resist it. We are told the following things:

Rot is a super-dangerous attribute that obliterates the target to the point where not a speck of dust remains. For example, it slew Julius the hero without leaving any room for resistance.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.253). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

Rot is a super-dangerous attribute that obliterates the target to the point where not a speck of dust remains. For example, it slew Julius the hero without leaving any room for resistance.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.253). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

That seems to confirm that rot has an instant death component to it. Additionally, it sounds like the object hit just is erased, not merely broken down.

That would mean rot is Instant Death + Existence Erasure and resisting it would grant the corresponding resistances.

Rot Evil Eye​

Since it is not mentioned on Shiro's profile yet: She has this.

I used a Rot-attribute Evil Eye attack to kill Julius. It’s an insta-kill attack, just like my scythe. An incredibly powerful one that can kill someone just by looking at them. But it comes at a pretty high cost. My eyes are still damaged from using it. The damage is so deep that not even my regenerative abilities can easily fix it. I can use things like X-ray vision and telescopic vision, but I’m trying to hold off on using Evil Eyes style abilities; it’s not that I absolutely can’t use them, but I think it would slow down the healing process.

Baba, Okina. So I'm a Spider, So What?, Vol. 13 (light novel) (So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)) (S.259). Yen Press. Kindle-Version.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I took the liberty of changing the thread title as the changes proposed are about more than resurrection. And I added categories. Always add categories.

It should be noted that Shiro admitted that she could only resurrect people in worlds with something like the system.


I agree with all you have brought up, except hacking. Hacking is about computers and stuff. What Shiro is "hacking" is conjuring, i.e. a spell, so I don't think it counts. One could argue it is something like limited power modification instead.


And since you already made this thread regarding Volume 13 changes, let me just add my stuff on top of this (I could also move it to a separate thread, though, if you prefer):

Energy absorption​

She should have limited energy absorption. Honestly, we could have added that when she ate the bomb, but this illustrates it too:

Curses / Mind Control​

Shiro can cast curses that control others

Information Analysis​

Limited information analysis for being able to analyze the system and its functions, which means analysis of spells.

Mind Control 2​

Mind control again, but this time spider style.

Teleport feat​

Not a new ability, but increasing the potency of one she has. Shiro can teleport entire armies.

Healing magic counters mind control​

As the title says. This is of interest as Arachne Kumoko has maxed out basic healing magic and should hence be able to do this.

Can sense teleportation​

I thought this was already on the profile, but I think it actually isn't.

Hiding presence​

Shiro can hide her presence to some degree, which should give her some degree of stealth mastery.

Clone details​

We get a lot of details on clones that can be added. For a start we get a number of thousands for the spy-ders.

They also resist all detection skills in the system, which are a lot.

Shiro can simultaneously control thousands of these clones. We also get the rundown on their abilities which can more or less just go unto the profile as is.

That gives Shiro poison (they key didn't have it yet apparently) and a few more space manip techniques, like teleporting something into pieces, spatial cutting and cutting off a path via space manip.

For completeness sake there is then also the system clone:

Although they don't do much.

Erasing skills​

Soooo....

Apparently, all rules can do the skill erasure thing. Since they all are informed of what they can do with their authority as well, that isn't even just theoretical.

That would apply to Arachne Kumoko then, as she has a lot of ruler skills.

Black Spear​

Just a small addition to her darkness magic.

Didn't have spear type projectile listed yet.

Space techniques​

Some new techniques for her space manip are mentioned.

Charm resistance​

I guess this is like limited resistance to social influencing... although it probably has some supernatural aspects too.

Stamina feat​

For her deity self, since we had none yet. Fighting for several days.

Rot Revisions​

Well, this is a big one (well, except the regen upgrade). This concerns how we treat rod and those that resist it. We are told the following things:


That seems to confirm that rot has an instant death component to it. Additionally, it sounds like the object hit just is erased, not merely broken down.

That would mean rot is Instant Death + Existence Erasure and resisting it would grant the corresponding resistances.

Rot Evil Eye​

Since it is not mentioned on Shiro's profile yet: She has this.

Thanks for helping and improving the thread

also,

I agree with all you have brought up, except hacking. Hacking is about computers and stuff. What Shiro is "hacking" is conjuring, i.e. a spell, so I don't think it counts. One could argue it is something like limited power modification instead.

i dont think that it is only about computer

Hacking

In fiction (and real life) hacking is the process of breaking into computers, robots, advanced artificial intelligences and/or software and taking control of the system. The process can be achieved through wireless connections or wired lines or through the addition of equipment (corrupted USB...

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In fiction (and real life) hacking is the process of breaking into computers, robots, advanced artificial intelligences and/or software and taking control of the system. The process can be achieved through wireless connections or wired lines or through the addition of equipment (corrupted USB add-ons, nanomachines etc). Some fictions even extend the definitions into hacking things like reality or the human mind. In the latter case that would be a form of mind attack and the former is a form of reality warping. Hacking can also be described as a robot mind attack. Since robots are immune to conventional mind attacks hacking would be the next best thing.

but i understand if Hacking will be rejected, but i still thinks that it would qualify

 

[Bernkastelll]

Also, @DontTalkDT

Shiro said that her stats are around 50k while Ariel are around 90k, would it make LN Ariel also High 6-A?

 

[DontTalkDT]

Also, @DontTalkDT

Shiro said that her stats are around 50k while Ariel are around 90k, would it make LN Ariel also High 6-A?

Personally, I think that's more an issue of physical stats. Or her conjuring of stats to be specific. While it's in a different context Shiro goes on about how increasing the power of conjuring past a certain level can be difficult, even if you have the energy.
It's generally hard to imagine that Ariel is as powerful as the GMA bomb and Shiro for example states how her magic is so powerful that nothing in the System could match it (although that is about spatial conjuring in particular). Consider how Shiro could have oneshot the shadows with her dark magic despite the powernull barrier, if she had wanted to, and those were in the same 50k to 60k range.

i dont think that it is only about computer

Hacking

In fiction (and real life) hacking is the process of breaking into computers, robots, advanced artificial intelligences and/or software and taking control of the system. The process can be achieved through wireless connections or wired lines or through the addition of equipment (corrupted USB...

vsbattles.fandom.com

In fiction (and real life) hacking is the process of breaking into computers, robots, advanced artificial intelligences and/or software and taking control of the system. The process can be achieved through wireless connections or wired lines or through the addition of equipment (corrupted USB add-ons, nanomachines etc). Some fictions even extend the definitions into hacking things like reality or the human mind. In the latter case that would be a form of mind attack and the former is a form of reality warping. Hacking can also be described as a robot mind attack. Since robots are immune to conventional mind attacks hacking would be the next best thing.

but i understand if Hacking will be rejected, but i still thinks that it would qualify

Eh, it's quite an edge case, I suppose. The page lists hacking of reality one could argue it qualifies, even if I personally consider it somewhat... misleading. It's not quite the description I would expect for manipulating a spell.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Personally, I think that's more an issue of physical stats. Or her conjuring of stats to be specific. While it's in a different context Shiro goes on about how increasing the power of conjuring past a certain level can be difficult, even if you have the energy.
It's generally hard to imagine that Ariel is as powerful as the GMA bomb and Shiro for example states how her magic is so powerful that nothing in the System could match it (although that is about spatial conjuring in particular). Consider how Shiro could have oneshot the shadows with her dark magic despite the powernull barrier, if she had wanted to, and those were in the same 50k to 60k range.

Hm, fair, maybe she can just increase the amount of energy that she needs, also, aren't the shadows stated to be around Vampy or Wrath level of power? And wouldnt it be a more layered resistance to powernull? Vampy said that she maximized her power nullification above everyone else, and Shiro said that the shadow clone power null was better than Vampy if i recall

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[DontTalkDT]

Hm, fair, maybe she can just increase the amount of energy that she needs, also, aren't the shadows stated to be around Vampy or Wrath level of power? And wouldnt it be a more layered resistance to powernull? Vampy said that she maximized her power nullification above everyone else, and Shiro said that the shadow clone power null was better than Vampy if i recall

They are stated to be comparable to Sophia and Wrath, yeah. Which makes me wonder if the two are stronger now or the Shadows are weaker and make up for it with teamwork.

Oh yeah, you're probably right regarding the powernull resistance.

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[Bernkastelll]

Bump

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[Confluctor]

Are you waiting for DT?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Are you waiting for DT?

honestly no idea, i just dont know if the revisions can be applied, and there is also the whole thing about Hacking if it is valid or not

 

[Confluctor]

Oh. I see.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Bump

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[DontTalkDT]

I have applied Bernkastelll's suggestions.
My suggestions would need another staff members approval, so it might be best if I copy them into a new thread after all.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I have applied Bernkastelll's suggestions.
My suggestions would need another staff members approval, so it might be best if I copy them into a new thread after all.

alright, it's fine then