which immortality is more useful

[Uniasha]

immortality type 5 or 9?

 

[Planck69]

Type 9, imo.

 

[Everything12]

Generally Type 9, as normally the Immortality comes from a Higher Dimensional or even Outerversal being, which is far better Immortality then simply not being able to die because you lack the Concept of Deth.

Though if the Type 9 comes from a being that isn't of a Higher Dimension then the user, then theirs a chance Type 5 is better, as in that case killing someone who is on the same level as you might be easier then dealing with Concepts.

 

[Uniasha]

Generally Type 9, as normally the Immortality comes from a Higher Dimensional or even Outerversal being, which is far better Immortality then simply not being able to die because you lack the Concept of Deth.
Though if the Type 9 comes from a being that isn't of a Higher Dimension then the user, then theirs a chance Type 5 is better.

point taken. 39

 

[Planck69]

In short;

A guy with good enough EE can handle Type 5 just fine.

A smurf is (usually) needed to bypass Type 9.

 

[Uniasha]

In short;
A guy with good enough EE can handle Type 5 just fine.

A smurf is (usually) needed to bypass Type 9.

a smurf with EE or just a plain smurf?

 

[Everything12]

Depends on the Higher Dimensional character who the Type 9 comes from.

 

[Uniasha]

Depends on the Higher Dimensional character who the Type 9 comes from.

still wondering why wu kong doesnt have it -_-ll

 

[Everything12]

Who would he get Immortality from? Plus Wu Kong's profile is in need of revision from what I've heard.

 

[Planck69]

Depends on how good the survivability of his opponent's true form is. If the true form is just a higher being then even mind-hax would work. The problem is that they wouldn't be aware of the higher being in the first place so even smurf-hax just mean that you have the ability to kill him not that you can do it outright, unless you have Cosmic Awareness or something.

 

[Uniasha]

Who would he get Immortality from? Plus Wu Kong's profile is in need of revision from what I've heard.

he gets it from gaining budhhahood from the big guy up stairs

 

[Uniasha]

and his profile definitely needs a revision

 

[Planck69]

That's Type 8, unless this big guy is just Wukong's true form.

 

[Everything12]

Plus, is it started that the big guy upstairs will automatically bring Wu Kong back if he ever killed or destroyed?

 

[PandimensionalBeing042]

how does type 5 immorality work

 

[Planck69]

how does type 5 immorality work

Your beyond life or death so you can't conventionally die.

 

[PandimensionalBeing042]

how does type 5 immorality work

Your beyond life or death so you can't conventionally die.

so you can't conventionally die wow cool

 

[Everything12]

You lack a Concept of Death, so stuff that would normally kill you, like the destruction of your body and Death Hax, doesn't kill you, so you can just Regenerate or continue acting as if nothing happened.

 

[Planck69]

You lack a Concept of Death, so stuff that would normally kill you, like the destruction of your body and Death Hax, doesn't kill you, so you can just Regenerate or continue acting as if nothing happened.

Actually, there was a discussion about that and it doesn't automatically give you Regenerationn. Which is why stuff like EE is said to bypass it.

 

[Uniasha]

That's Type 8, unless this big guy is just Wukong's true form.

pretty much anyone who gains buddhahood in the myth would transcend to a higher plane of existense from what i have seen and no this immortality doesnt rely on the buddha so therefor isnt type 8

 

[PandimensionalBeing042]

how does immortality type 3 work can you survive a heart attack with immorality 3 or 5

 

[Planck69]

how does immortality type 3 work can you survive a heart attack with immorality 3 or 5

Type 3 is basically just good enough Regenerationn and normally, those with good Low-Mid and above can get it by default. Good enough Type 3 would allow you to survive a heart attack. Type 5 allows you to survive by default.

 

[Everything12]

Immortality Type 3 is basically Regenerationn, so if your Regenerationn is good enough then yes, you can survive a Heart Attack. And as you lack a Concept of Death stuff like Heart Attacks definitely won't kill you.

Also is the Wukong Type 9, that the Buddha Wukong will always revive his physical avatar if it's ever killed or destroyed?

 

[PandimensionalBeing042]

check my thread out please no one checks this thread out https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4286728

 

[Uniasha]

Immortality Type 3 is basically Regenerationn, so if your Regenerationn is good enough then yes, you can survive a Heart Attack. And as you lack a Concept of Death stuff like Heart Attacks definitely won't kill you.
Also is the Wukong Type 9, that the Buddha Wukong will always revive his physical avatar if it's ever killed or destroyed?

someone needs to make a thread for wukng about that actually

 

[Uniasha]

Immortality Type 3 is basically Regenerationn, so if your Regenerationn is good enough then yes, you can survive a Heart Attack. And as you lack a Concept of Death stuff like Heart Attacks definitely won't kill you.
Also is the Wukong Type 9, that the Buddha Wukong will always revive his physical avatar if it's ever killed or destroyed?

but anyway buddhahood wu kong doesnt have any physical avatars

 

[PandimensionalBeing042]

can someone with immorality type 8 be killed or erased from existence

 

[Planck69]

Only by getting rid of the object, person or concept they rely on. Otherwise, no.

 

[Everything12]

If Buddha Wukong doesn't have Avatars then who is reviving who?

 

[Uniasha]

himself...? he can revive at minimum 72 times with qi shi er bian

 

[Everything12]

Pretty sure the 72 lives thing isn't Type 9 but is Type 4, Type 9 is when a characters True Form revives/recreates an Avatar after the Avatar has been killed/destroyed, Type 4 is what would be given when you resurrect yourself without any True Form being involved.

 

[Uniasha]

Pretty sure the 72 lives thing isn't Type 9 but is Type 4, Type 9 is when a characters True Form revives/recreates an Avatar after the Avatar has been killed/destroyed

first of all he would transcend and exist on a higher plane of existense when he achieved buddhahood and 2nd he already has immortality type 4 on his profile before buddhahood

 

[Everything12]

Just because they exist on a Higher Dimension does not give Type 9. What gives Type 9 is if they are a Avatar of a being that exists on a different plane of existence, and the True Form revives/recreates the Avatar everytime it's killed/destroyed. As it clearly states

9: Transcendental Immortality: Characters whose true selves exist independently from the plane where they can be killed.

If their no Avatar then they can't get Type 9.

 

[Uniasha]

Just because they exist on a Higher Dimension does not give Type 9. What gives Type 9 is if you are a Avatar of a being that exists on a different plane of existence, and the True Form revives/recreates the Avatar everytime it's killed/destroyed as it clearly states
9: Transcendental Immortality: Characters whose true selves exist independently from the plane where they can be killed.

If their no Avatar then they can't get Type 9.
i mean buddha himself has avatars so gaining buddhahood would also allow wu kong to do the same but he just never showcase any of it in the myth because that is literally where the story ends