𝑾𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝑬𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝑴𝒆𝒆𝒕𝒔 𝑫𝒊𝒗𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒚:𝑰𝒏𝒇𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒆 𝒁𝒂𝒎𝒂𝒔𝒖 𝒗𝒔 𝑮𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑷𝒓𝒊𝒆𝒔𝒕

[CelestialVortex01]

SUMMARY!!!

- Pretty much the entire Future Trunks Saga goes the same, until Fusion Zamasu casted aside his physical form and became the Abstract thoughts of will & justice itself.

-A few episodes back The Grand priest gave a button to Goku so he could summon him when he needs him, so Goku summons the Grand priest mid battle.


Location takes place in a Central Park.

Starting distance: well

The rest is SBA.

Can speed even be equalized in this case?

Infinite Zamasu key is used if you're not aware of it


Versus

Grand Priest (Manga) is also used, if you're not aware of it

Heart's victim:

Fraudpriest:

Inconclusive:

 

[Quantu]

Grand Priest lacks the range to kill IZ

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

IZ stomps Grand Priest HARD. Not only does GP lack any way to fully affect IZ range-wise, he can't interact with Zamasu's AE type 1.

 

[Killerdrone123]

IZ stomps Grand Priest HARD. Not only does GP lack any way to fully affect IZ range-wise, he can't interact with Zamasu's AE type 1.

Ki manipulation has npi for ae type 1 also IZ can't do anything to grand priest he has immortality type 8,he doesn't also have ap to harm him initially

Although he might later have it

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Ki manipulation has npi for ae type 1 also IZ can't do anything to grand priest he has immortality type 8,he doesn't also have ap to harm him initially

Why does Zeno have it on his page? I think that needs to be removed seeing as it's universal. Unless that of course is that it applies to his EE.

Anyways, this is completely a mismatch, neither have the means of killing each other. GP can't destroy Zamasu across the cosmology like Zeno, meanwhile Zamasu can't really do a lot to GP since he has immo type 8.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Ki manipulation has npi for ae type 1 also IZ can't do anything to grand priest he has immortality type 8,he doesn't also have ap to harm him initially

Although he might later have it

This needs to be removed, it's about Goku and company being able to affect Infinite Zamasu, but in reality they didn't even touch him, the reflected attack, so either way there will be a further downgrade.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Why does Zeno have it on his page? I think that needs to be removed seeing as it's universal. Unless that of course is that it applies to his EE.

This is more because of Goku and company who launched an attack on Infinite Zamasu, but the attack itself was reflected.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

This needs to be removed, it's about Goku and company being able to affect Infinite Zamasu, but in reality they didn't even touch him, the reflected attack, so either way there will be a further downgrade.

It wasn't reflected, their ki attacks quite literally hit Infinite Zamasu, it was just didn't affect zamasu because they didn't have enough AP (since they were very exhausted from dealing with Fused zamasu before he became IZ

 

[Killerdrone123]

This needs to be removed, it's about Goku and company being able to affect Infinite Zamasu, but in reality they didn't even touch him, the reflected attack, so either way there will be a further downgrade.

There attack clearly had a ripple effect on infinite zamasu it wasn't reflection

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

In fact, the attack is reflected, you can see that the attacks come back down, even if Goku and company had enough ki they wouldn't be able to interact with Infinite Zamasu, this is absurd.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

In fact, the attack is reflected, you can see that the attacks come back down, even if Goku and company had enough ki they wouldn't be able to interact with Infinite Zamasu, this is absurd.

No it didn't got reflected what? If that was the came their attack would come back to them

It's blatantly a ripple effect and it just did 0 dmg to IZ due to lack of AP

IF they couldn't interact with IZ, their attack would pass through zamasu

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

No it didn't got reflected what? If that was the came their attack would come back to them

The attacks were reflected, so much so that you can see them being sent down after Goku and company shoot, in no way is this an interaction and should be run accordingly

It's blatantly a ripple effect and it just did 0 dmg to IZ due to lack of AP

IF they couldn't interact with IZ, their attack would pass through zamasu

This is because the attack didn't even touch Infinite Zamasu's body and was reflected, the warriors have no interaction to do anything with it and it is said in the episode summary itself that the attack was ineffective against him.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

The attacks were reflected, so much so that you can see them being sent down after Goku and company shoot, in no way is this an interaction and should be run accordingly

Please rematch the episode, their attacks would come back towards them if that was reflection. It didn't, their attack hit zamasu and 0 damage.

And funny enough, even if that was the case. That just means their ki attack HIT zamasu and just bounced back. Regardless of that, it is still NPI

This is because the attack didn't even touch Infinite Zamasu's body and was reflected, the warriors have no interaction to do anything with it and it is said in the episode summary itself that the attack was ineffective against him.

If it didn't touch IZ, then how it got reflected? Please do tell me because zamasu is not physical so it would just pass through him.

Ineffective means it did 0 damage. Again, they lacked AP to actually hurt him. In both case this is NPI. Period.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

But anyway, that's a topic for another crt.

I don't see Daishinkan doing absolutely anything against Infinite Zamasu due to Zamasu's range and there being no quotes mentioning that he can interact with beings of abstract existence (and it doesn't come with this ki that can interact with abstract beings, this is literally from the super anime and not from the super manga)

 

[Killerdrone123]

The attacks were reflected, so much so that you can see them being sent down after Goku and company shoot, in no way is this an interaction and should be run accordingly

This is because the attack didn't even touch Infinite Zamasu's body and was reflected, the warriors have no interaction to do anything with it and it is said in the episode summary itself that the attack was ineffective against him.

You realise a ripple is created when you interact with something i.e touch it otherwise the attack would have literally phased through zamasu

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

You realise a ripple is created when you interact with something i.e touch it otherwise the attack would have literally phased through zamasu

Anyway, Daishinkan can't interact with him due to not having NPI in the manga, only ki anime can possibly affect this.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Anyway, Daishinkan can't interact with him due to not having NPI in the manga, only ki anime can possibly affect this.

I mean yeah that's fine

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I was gonna bring that up too that the AE is only for the anime's version of Ki, manga Grand Priest doesn't have NPI for Zamasu in the manga profile. Even if we used the anime profile, again, he gets rangestomped because he can't kill IZ due to lacking range. Although, IZ won't be able to hurt anime GP at all because he scales to 6 universes while Zamasu only scales to 3.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Ignoring the objectively wrong argument about NPI removal LuffyRuffy did. I'm voting for Incon, IZ cannot kill GP because of his Immortality 8 but neither GP can kill IZ due to low range.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yeah I forgot that npi was only for anime this seems incon

 

[CryoTheMayo]

How in the world can people conclude Zamasu stomps here? It's an inconclusive result like Ronin says. Zamasu can't do a thing to the Grand Priest because the Grand Priest is completely immortal. Zamasu would need EE to kill him and the Grand Priest has options such as teleportation, time travel and Ultra Instinct to stay alive for practically eternity. And stats-wise Infinite Zamasu is only treated as 3 2-C here, meaning Grand Priest outscales him to hell and back.

The only thing Zamasu has here is AE and range. So Zamasu can't do a thing to GP and GP can't really interact with him.

Yeah I forgot that npi was only for anime this seems incon

The manga has NPI via Goku and Vegeta warping the WoV.

 

[Killerdrone123]

How in the world can people conclude Zamasu stomps here? It's an inconclusive result like Ronin says. Zamasu can't do a thing to the Grand Priest because the Grand Priest is completely immortal. Zamasu would need EE to kill him and the Grand Priest has options such as teleportation, time travel and Ultra Instinct to stay alive for practically eternity. And stats-wise Infinite Zamasu is only treated as 3 2-C here, meaning Grand Priest outscales him to hell and back.

The only thing Zamasu has here is AE and range. So Zamasu can't do a thing to GP and GP can't really interact with him.


The manga has NPI via Goku and Vegeta warping the WoV.

I meant for AE

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Anyways, this is completely a mismatch, neither have the means of killing each other. GP can't destroy Zamasu across the cosmology like Zeno, meanwhile Zamasu can't really do a lot to GP since he has immo type 8.

Agreed. I will close this now.