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what would destroying a timeline with infinite space and time within it be?
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One timeline of infinite length and a universe of infinite size would be Low 2-C
For it to be 2-A you would have to destroy infinite timelines of infinite length with universe of infinite size
For it to be 2-A you would have to destroy infinite timelines of infinite length with universe of infinite size
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Yes, it would take the destruction of an infinite amount of said timelines to be 2-A
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VS Battles treats some infinities as higher than others.
And why is this on the VS threads board?
And why is this on the VS threads board?
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I actually brought this up before.
A single infinite universe would be:
1 universe X infinite length X infinite width X infinite depth X infinite time = infinity^4,
while an infinite number of finite universes (e.g. 20 billion light years in all directions) would be:
infinite universes X 20B light years length X 20B light years width X 20B light years depth X infinite time = 20,000,000,000^3 X infinity^2,
and obviously, the first has a larger value despite being only one universe
Problem is that we'd need to try to calculate the "size" of each the infinite universes, and that would just be problematic
A single infinite universe would be:
1 universe X infinite length X infinite width X infinite depth X infinite time = infinity^4,
while an infinite number of finite universes (e.g. 20 billion light years in all directions) would be:
infinite universes X 20B light years length X 20B light years width X 20B light years depth X infinite time = 20,000,000,000^3 X infinity^2,
and obviously, the first has a larger value despite being only one universe
Problem is that we'd need to try to calculate the "size" of each the infinite universes, and that would just be problematic
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i think it gets a bit confusing because this site's definition of infinity is kinda going against what the word means.
one infinity is the exact same thing as infinite infinities.
in those formulas above, both of them are just infinite. infinity ^4 is the exact same thing as just plain infinity.
one infinity is the exact same thing as infinite infinities.
in those formulas above, both of them are just infinite. infinity ^4 is the exact same thing as just plain infinity.
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One infinity is not the same thing as infinite infinities...
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@Saitamax Not really. Degrees of infinity and things past infinity do exist. Look up Aleph Null for more info
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the most commonly used meaning of the word infinity doesn't accept anything beyond it because any further concepts you try to pile on top of infinity would just circle right back to being encompassed by infinity
for example. an infinite number of infinities can still be accurately described as simply "infinite"
you can find different conclusions on this however. the most well known being Cantor's theorem.
its just not what most people are used to the word meaning. Infinity in general is really confusing to discuss anyways....
for example. an infinite number of infinities can still be accurately described as simply "infinite"
you can find different conclusions on this however. the most well known being Cantor's theorem.
its just not what most people are used to the word meaning. Infinity in general is really confusing to discuss anyways....
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They are all infinity of course. But infinity, by its very nature, is not a static concept. And as one infinity keeps growing, so to can other infinities be greater or lesser.
Take for example, the amount of 'moments' in time, seeing as that is somewhat related to the topic on this thread. There are an infinite amount of moments in a second. There are an infinite amount of moments in an hour. There are an infinite amount of moments in a century, and there are an infinite amount of moments in an attosecond.
But the amount of those infinite moments in an hour is going to be a lot more than the amount of infinite moments in an attosecond
Take for example, the amount of 'moments' in time, seeing as that is somewhat related to the topic on this thread. There are an infinite amount of moments in a second. There are an infinite amount of moments in an hour. There are an infinite amount of moments in a century, and there are an infinite amount of moments in an attosecond.
But the amount of those infinite moments in an hour is going to be a lot more than the amount of infinite moments in an attosecond
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techinically all infinities are the same, but it's how and in this case where the infinities are distributed. The point is sure, touching an infinite amount of space within a single universe is massive, but it dosn't mean as much if one is unable to touch other infinite 3/4 (if counting entire timeline of the universes as well)-dimensional universes at the same time (time referring to single instant here)
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I think that the difference between low 2-C and 2-A is the dimensional background. Infinite 4-D universes are distributed in a 5-D background and the only way to travel between them is by moving through 5-D space. It's this higher dimensional space that makes each infinity distinguishable from the others rather than one infinity encompassing the others. Two infinities are indistinguishable, but cardinally higher infinities are distinguishable.
EDIT: i think what i said doesn't make sense
EDIT: i think what i said doesn't make sense
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@Monarch Laciel You are treating infinite like a number but this isn't the case, infinity is a concept.
The amount of moments in an a second a billion years are the same.Much how rational and irrational numbers are the same kind of infinity but what changes is the density of numbers.
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"techinically all infinities are the same"
That's not the case, there are different kinds of infinities.
The amount of moments in an a second a billion years are the same.Much how rational and irrational numbers are the same kind of infinity but what changes is the density of numbers.
@Megamangohan
"techinically all infinities are the same"
That's not the case, there are different kinds of infinities.
