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What the **** are these statements?

ShionAH

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My guess is Immortality 5 or Transduality

https://media.**********.net/attachments/1065573047945408548/1096820352618872892/1000.png?width=1250&height=251

Maybe Casuality or Chaos Manipulation?

https://media.**********.net/attachments/1065573047945408548/1096823656493105242/1000.png?width=1250&height=183,

No idea

https://media.**********.net/attachments/1065573047945408548/1096823237343715408/flumpty_s_death_by_lovelyxmoonlight_d9r2gbj-fullview.png?width=800&height=450

The Author erases flumptys immunity of plot and then erases him from the plot but Flumpty just kinda comes back. High-Godly? Idk.

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ShionAH said:
https://media.**********.net/attachments/1065573047945408548/1096823656493105242/1000.png?width=1250&height=183,

No idea
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Maybe that say thats exist multiples timelines
ShionAH said:
https://media.**********.net/attachments/1065573047945408548/1096823237343715408/flumpty_s_death_by_lovelyxmoonlight_d9r2gbj-fullview.png?width=800&height=450

The Author erases flumptys immunity of plot and then erases him from the plot but Flumpty just kinda comes back. High-Godly? Idk.

https://media.**********.net/attachments/1065573047945408548/1096825221845094521/image.png?width=1218&height=302
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Maybe? Also we don't know how he came back, so If is High-Godly, will be Overtime
 
Shmooply said:
Considering the tone of some of these messages, I feel like the guy is just teasing or making funny comments instead of answering them seriously, especially the strip club part.
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Same. If this at least was done through a more official manner, then maybe I could entertain the idea. But as it stands, hard no from me.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Same. If this at least was done through a more official manner, then maybe I could entertain the idea. But as it stands, hard no from me.
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Shmooply said:
Considering the tone of some of these messages, I feel like the guy is just teasing or making funny comments instead of answering them seriously, especially the strip club part.
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This guy always does that. All his answers are serious but the whole verse is supposed to be one big joke so these can be taken serious. Now what will these be?
 
ShionAH said:
This guy always does that. All his answers are serious but the whole verse is supposed to be one big joke so these can be taken serious.
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No, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever and would definitely lead to the most slippery slope of all time. Just because a verse is comedic all of the time, doesn't mean that every single statement from the creator should be taken at face value. Literally why would an eldritch egg-shaped god randomly go to a strip club?
 
Shmooply said:
No, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever and would definitely lead to the most slippery slope of all time. Just because a verse is comedic all of the time, doesn't mean that every single statement from the creator should be taken at face value. Literally why would an eldritch egg-shaped god randomly go to a strip club?
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Why wont he?? Theres no logic or plot and Flumpty is a very childish and a character that will def go to a strip club to get friends. Opinions dont really matter infront of statements so I rest my case
 
Shmooply said:
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You're literally proving my point.
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Your point which is “Well maybe the creator was joking!” Ignoring the fact that those jokes are also canon since the verse is a literal joke. Anyways personal opinions dont really matter since theres no proof of him lying here
 
This is all kinda confusing, especially not knowing the context behind it all.

1. Canonly die but also canonically didn't die? Perhaps it implies that both outcomes are the possible canon ending for the said character (?)

2. Lack of context to give verdict.

3. Don't see how this could give a hax.

4. This one is interesting. As you say, author erases his immunity to the plot, thus letting Flumty died.

So basically "the plot demand" him to die, bypassing his immunity to the plot and thus die.

Author says he came back.

IMO, this is not High Godly since we don't know if his entire existence is erased.

To me, it only seems like a character who has lost its relevance to the plot and thus gets killed (losing immunity to the plot and dying to the plot), then came back.

I can see this as the resurrection (type 4 immortality).
 
Abstractly_a_Protagonist said:
This is all kinda confusing, especially not knowing the context behind it all.

1. Canonly die but also canonically didn't die? Perhaps it implies that both outcomes are the possible canon ending for the said character (?)
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No he died. But he also didn't die. The outcomes happened but they are equally true
Abstractly_a_Protagonist said:
4. This one is interesting. As you say, author erases his immunity to the plot, thus letting Flumty died.

So basically "the plot demand" him to die, bypassing his immunity to the plot and thus die.

Author says he came back.

IMO, this is not High Godly since we don't know if his entire existence is erased.

To me, it only seems like a character who has lost its relevance to the plot and thus gets killed (losing immunity to the plot and dying to the plot), then came back.

I can see this as the resurrection (type 4 immortality).
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The Author erases his immunity and kills Flumptys character from the plot but Flumpty just comes back. Isnt that high godly?
 
ShionAH said:
The Author erases his immunity and kills Flumptys character from the plot but Flumpty just comes back. Isn't that high godly?
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High Godly requires the erasure of body, mind, soul, and at least one fundamental aspect (could be concept, information, or plot).

What I got from the Flumpty grave is that he fell, his body cracked, and thus wasn't able to be put back.

To me, it reads like Flumpty just died normally. No mention of his soul and mind gets erased. His body is still left behind as well.

Statements or feats of regeneration in which characters are able to survive as long as a part of their existence, such as their souls or minds, remain intact, or that involve the regeneration of a non-physical aspect of the body while the body itself remains intact, do not warrant godly levels of regeneration due to involving resurrection rather than the complete destruction and reforming of both the physical and non-physical aspects of a body, which is a fundamental requirement to qualify.
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Abstractly_a_Protagonist said:
High Godly requires the erasure of body, mind, soul, and at least one fundamental aspect (could be concept, information, or plot).

What I got from the Flumpty grave is that he fell, his body cracked, and thus wasn't able to be put back.

To me, it reads like Flumpty just died normally. No mention of his soul and mind gets erased. His body is still left behind as well.
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"Such an aspect could be their place in the narrative, their history, their information (Type 2), their concept, et cetera"

Didn't the author literally use the plot manipulation to make his plot resistance and himself stop existing
 
Disregarding either those can even be used or not:

1. Too vague for anything as we don't know how that worked at all, could mean a fake out death or some weird ressurection system, definitely not transduality lol, could even be immortality type 7 of being a undead counts as alive

2. Nothing, that just means flumpty is responsible for shenanigans.

3. Nothing, maybe acausality type 4 like equius, but that was done by equius status as a heir of void IIRC, in flumpty's case we are not sure if it is because of him or just how the system of causality works there, hell it could be a fancy way of saying that alternate timelines are canon.

4. He just died, he wasn't erased, him losing his immunity to plot means he could canonically die, which he did, by falling.

Immortality type 4 that takes a unknown time i guess
 
Uhh... I dunno, the tone of the author makes this finicky as it is. It would be better to not tack these onto Flumpty so we don't wind up with members being confused over the nature of the statements.
 
Flashlight237 said:
Uhh... I dunno, the tone of the author makes this finicky as it is. It would be better to not tack these onto Flumpty so we don't wind up with members being confused over the nature of the statements.
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I see but the verse as a whole is not logical. Maybe we can use the more serious ones?
 
ShionAH said:
I see but the verse as a whole is not logical. Maybe we can use the more serious ones?
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Looney Tunes isn't logical either and back when we had it around, we made sure the showings and statements were legit and not bananas ridiculous. If we scrutinized that verse, we can scrutinize this one.
 
Flashlight237 said:
Looney Tunes isn't logical either and back when we had it around, we made sure the showings and statements were legit and not bananas ridiculous. If we scrutinized that verse, we can scrutinize this one.
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Alright then.
 
Thelastmlg said:
Disregarding either those can even be used or not:

1. Too vague for anything as we don't know how that worked at all, could mean a fake out death or some weird ressurection system, definitely not transduality lol, could even be immortality type 7 of being a undead counts as alive

2. Nothing, that just means flumpty is responsible for shenanigans.

3. Nothing, maybe acausality type 4 like equius, but that was done by equius status as a heir of void IIRC, in flumpty's case we are not sure if it is because of him or just how the system of causality works there, hell it could be a fancy way of saying that alternate timelines are canon.

4. He just died, he wasn't erased, him losing his immunity to plot means he could canonically die, which he did, by falling.

Immortality type 4 that takes a unknown time i guess
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I agree with this notion.
 
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