What power is this?

[LordGriffin1000]

A piece of paper has an image on it already and I use magic to change that image into a different drawing. What power would that be?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I would say Minor Matter Manipulation.

 

[Confluctor]

Text manipulation

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Text manipulation

That's a thing?

 

[Confluctor]

Yes

 

[RamizDayii]

We turn a picture of a horse on paper into a bear, and we do it by magic. Normally, manipulating a drawing on a sheet of paper may seem like text manipulation, but text manipulation is much more than that. For example, we draw something on paper and this paper represents a lower layer of reality. If you turn a horse here into a bear with magic, you turn that horse into a bear in the reality represented by this paper. I see no harm in calling it text manipulation. However, turning a horse on a non-functional paper into a bear with magic power does not seem like text manipulation, since this paper does not represent another reality, even if the picture is changed with magic, it will not affect any event or reality.

So I think this is something that changes depending on what a page on which the shape is drawn represents. But I wouldn't be surprised changing anything on a page is text manipulation. However, test manipulation page is more often described as "changing shapes on a page also has to lead to creation, destruction, shapeshifting, even causality, conceptuality and event manipulation in reality". Frankly, I wasn't sure exactly what it might give, but it could also be minor material manipulation, as said above. If it is actually text manipulation, I request you to write this situation in a more descriptive and detailed way on the text manipulation page.

 

[Vietthai96]

This is really vague, it could be a busted Text Manipulation which can change even a drawing, or a form of Illusion/Perception hax. It could be even Data/Information Manipulation since you rearrange informations to change the drawing

If that paper is somehow a lower reality (reality > fiction) then lol it is a Reality Warping or even Plot hax.

 

[StekFence]

Ink manip prob? Idk what that really falls under

 

[ImmortalDread]

We turn a picture of a horse on paper into a bear, and we do it by magic. Normally, manipulating a drawing on a sheet of paper may seem like text manipulation, but text manipulation is much more than that. For example, we draw something on paper and this paper represents a lower layer of reality. If you turn a horse here into a bear with magic, you turn that horse into a bear in the reality represented by this paper. I see no harm in calling it text manipulation. However, turning a horse on a non-functional paper into a bear with magic power does not seem like text manipulation, since this paper does not represent another reality, even if the picture is changed with magic, it will not affect any event or reality.

So I think this is something that changes depending on what a page on which the shape is drawn represents. But I wouldn't be surprised changing anything on a page is text manipulation. However, test manipulation page is more often described as "changing shapes on a page also has to lead to creation, destruction, shapeshifting, even causality, conceptuality and event manipulation in reality". Frankly, I wasn't sure exactly what it might give, but it could also be minor material manipulation, as said above. If it is actually text manipulation, I request you to write this situation in a more descriptive and detailed way on the text manipulation page.

Dang bro just say it is not text manipulation. We get it

 

[RamizDayii]

Dang bro just say it is not text manipulation. We get it

Actually, closest hax is text manipulation for this situation unless there is no hax to better explain this situation, such as ink manipulation or shape manipulation

The problem is that text manipulation only has to cause extraordinary situations, such as changing the events, knowledge, data or laws of a reality. In fact, when a character changes the text of an ordinary novel to fool another character, it should be essentially text manipulation. Not every text manipulation needs to be powerful enough to manipulate the story.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Actually, closest hax is text manipulation for this situation unless there is no hax to better explain this situation, such as ink manipulation or shape manipulation

The problem is that text manipulation only has to cause extraordinary situations, such as changing the events, knowledge, data or laws of a reality. In fact, when a character changes the text of an ordinary novel to fool another character, it should be essentially text manipulation. Not every text manipulation needs to be powerful enough to manipulate the story.

Dang then what's difference between text and plot manipulation?

 

[RamizDayii]

Dang then what's difference between text and plot manipulation?

Although both Text manipulation and Plot manipulation have many similarities that serve the same function as "changing the story", they differ from each other. One of the most obvious differences is that if the story is written as text and the story is manipulated by changing this text, then this text manipulation is evaluated under "The materialization of the event". But I think one of the questions that bothers many people is "Let's say there is a fictional universe and all the principles of this universe consist of texts written on a page. When a character changes any information in this text, it is not only text manipulation, but also information manipulation.

But some people have a problem with the question: İf a feat of someone who manipulates the text and changes the story not give text and plot manupilation, why we can give both text and information manipulation when a character manipulate the information that is written in the text?

The reason why this question was asked was that people who could change the story with text manipulation in some profiles either did not have plot manipulation in their profiles or were in a different section. I personally think that changing the story with text manipulation should definitely give plot manipulation as well.

If we come to another situation that distinguishes these two haxes: Plot manipulation indirectly changes the principles of reality by "changing the bone of the story". For example, while a character is telling a story with his words, he saves a deceased person from death by changing causality. So here the character is manipulating causality while telling the story.

For text manipulation, this "change the principles of reality by manipulating the narrative of the story, just as plot manipulation does" is not always the case. For example, we have a text, but in this text, instead of the scenario of a story, the principles of physics, mathematics, philosophy or chemistry are written. If we changed these principles with text manipulation, it wouldn't have anything to do with plot manipulation because technically we are manipulating the principles of the reality instead of the scenario of the story.

But if the text is writing a story this time and we are changing the principles of reality by changing this scenario, this can be both text manipulation and plot manipulation.

In addition, if the meta layer of a story can be manipulated not with texts, but with words or thoughts, then someone who changes the story with text manipulation will not be able to use her power here.