Wei Huo vs Hajime Nagumo

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Battle for the 5th spot in 5-C:

Wei Huo

Wei Huo is the main character of Five Frozen Centuries (时停五百年), a Xuanhuan web novel written by Dr. Dreamer. He never had a strong presence since he was a kid which resulted in him being forgotten by his teacher, by his classmates, even by his parents and when God decided freeze in time all...

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Hajime Nagumo

Hajime Nagumo was your average high school otaku whose cordial relationship with Kaori Shirasaki bought him the ire of most of his classmates. After absentmindedly wishing for his classmates to vanish to another world, he and the rest of his class suddenly found themselves summoned to a parallel...

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H.N:

Inconclusive:

 

[Eseseso]

Which keys are being used?

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Which keys are being used?

OP said this is for 5th place in 5-C on the Top 15 Strongest List. So Legendary-Being Wei Huo vs After Stories Hajime.

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

@EL_xWatcher1234x Also, didn't you say this woman was the one to beat in Arifureta instead of Hajime?

 

[Community_Gamer]

Could Wei resist Divine Edicts or Core Seal? If not then this isn't really a fight.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

@EL_xWatcher1234x Also, didn't you say this woman was the one to beat in Arifureta instead of Hajime?

In term of hax, and any character can partipate as long they're 5-C so we could replace him if this is a stomp.

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

In term of hax, and any character can partipate as long they're 5-C so we could replace him if this is a stomp.

I know but typically for matches to move up on the list, the absolute strongest characters are usually the ones that are used to rep the verse as a whole. Though Hajime himself is fine if he can take Wei Huo.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Wei Huo's Black Scale aka gravity and black hole are rule based powers that are 2-B in potency. His black bombs and Tree Armor and Shield are also 2-B which will rebound/reflect 100% of its enemy attacks but will be spent after a bit (think of gaming durability), and his Death Manip (Laws) through the Death Note is also 2-B hax. He got Laws, Plot, Fate and res to 2-A while Death res is just ust 2-B. He also got Lightning item weapon that scales to 2-B too in potency.

Thats his higher than tier hax. The 2-B can be scaled to 2-A if we use the likely tiering.

In verse laws are supersed, transcended by Rules and he scales above even them as we wasn't affected even by the author/dreamer of the story imposed laws.

The scaling goes like this: (Normal<Rare<Epic<Legendary) Laws <Mythic Rules (Non-Infinite Rules<Infinite Rules - aka rules that can't get stronger vs those that can get stronger) <River of Destiny/Spacetime/Storyline of the Dreamer/Creator<Wei Huo.

Could say its a Law that transcend Law itself as a Rule goes against reason, ignores principles, and breaks the axioms. Human concepts can't apply to them. Rule items are scaled to Mythical beings so that's why these the items are smurf things. Basically the smurf resistances are innate things while the smurf items are acquired.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Wei Huo's Black Scale aka gravity and black hole are rule based powers that are 2-B in potency. His black bombs and Tree Armor and Shield are also 2-B which will rebound/reflect 100% of its enemy attacks but will be spent after a bit (think of gaming durability),

Why his profile says 5-C ?

and his Death Manip (Laws) through the Death Note is also 2-B hax. He got Laws, Plot, Fate and res to 2-A while Death res is just ust 2-B. He also got Lightning item weapon that scales to 2-B too in potency.

and how could death, law, fate and plot have an AP ?

Thats his higher than tier hax. The 2-B can be scaled to 2-A if we use the likely tiering.

That's a different key we're using the legendary being which doesn't surpass 5-C.

In verse laws are supersed, transcended by Rules and he scales above even them as we wasn't affected even by the author/dreamer of the story imposed laws.

Now we're getting into 1-A.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

How is Wei dealing with Hajime CM(1,2) and info type 2 manipulation ?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Bump

 

[Zaratthustra]

Do you even understand how scaling works? Its been stated multiple times in the top strongest thread that he's 5-C, he's only using items not his own body to scale, he's using an external source. If the character doesn't scale physically to X tier then they aren't that tier. He's 5-C with items that have hax potency of Mythical beings.

His resistances scales to beings that of the said tier, in this case of the Creator/Dreamer/Author as the entire novel is within the mind of an author, who was writting a novel and Wang Wei somehow existed there when he wasn't part of the story, and wasn't affected by its cosmos laws and what the author was writting/imaginating to happen. Its hax potency.

We are using the 5-C key but his hax resistence for the mentioned powers scale"At least 2-B, likely 2-A", as its scales on what end we decide to use the Mythical beings. If we accept on the thread the 2-A end then his resistances are scaled to 2-A if not its 2-B. It all depending on which "end" we use.

Its not 1-A, someone dreaming or transcending something its not instant 1-A, not that even close without actual backing and good reasoning. When the thread for its meta hax/tier 2 stuff happened it was accepted as "At least 2-B* likely 2-A". Since then things changed and it become a bit easier to scale some things. If the profile would have been posted now his resistences potency would be Low 1-C.

He doesn't have resistances against concept and information manipulation. But with how Domains work in the verse if his opponent can't resist them, then powers are useless. Before something can affect a being with a domain it must first be able to overpower it (usually with their own domain), in this case Wei got the Nirvana/Death Domain which kills anything within its range. He can just point/glance for something to be disintegrated and/or shatter (powers include).

 

[Orioreeem]

Do you even understand how scaling works? Its been stated multiple times in the top strongest thread that he's 5-C, he's only using items not his own body to scale, he's using an external source. If the character doesn't scale physically to X tier then they aren't that tier. He's 5-C with items that have hax potency of Mythical beings.

His resistances scales to beings that of the said tier, in this case of the Creator/Dreamer/Author as the entire novel is within the mind of an author, who was writting a novel and Wang Wei somehow existed there when he wasn't part of the story, and wasn't affected by its cosmos laws and what the author was writting/imaginating to happen. Its hax potency.

We are using the 5-C key but his hax resistence for the mentioned powers scale"At least 2-B, likely 2-A", as its scales on what end we decide to use the Mythical beings. If we accept on the thread the 2-A end then his resistances are scaled to 2-A if not its 2-B. It all depending on which "end" we use.

Its not 1-A, someone dreaming or transcending something its not instant 1-A, not that even close without actual backing and good reasoning. When the thread for its meta hax/tier 2 stuff happened it was accepted as "At least 2-B* likely 2-A". Since then things changed and it become a bit easier to scale some things. If the profile would have been posted now his resistences potency would be Low 1-C.

He doesn't have resistances against concept and information manipulation. But with how Domains work in the verse if his opponent can't resist them, then powers are useless. Before something can affect a being with a domain it must first be able to overpower it (usually with their own domain), in this case Wei got the Nirvana/Death Domain which kills anything within its range. He can just point/glance for something to be disintegrated and/or shatter (powers include).

Wang Wei huh

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Do you even understand how scaling works? Its been stated multiple times in the top strongest thread that he's 5-C, he's only using items not his own body to scale, he's using an external source. If the character doesn't scale physically to X tier then they aren't that tier. He's 5-C with items that have hax potency of Mythical beings.

We are using the 5-C key but his hax resistence for the mentioned powers scale"At least 2-B, likely 2-A", as its scales on what end we decide to use the Mythical beings. If we accept on the thread the 2-A end then his resistances are scaled to 2-A if not its 2-B. It all depending on which "end" we use.

The problem is that his profile only mention him being tier 2 in his mythical key. the justification for his AP goes like :
Legendary being key

Moon level (Fought[183] and defeated a Leviathan that is as big as the largest island[184] on Earth whose true power[183] could have destroyed the moon)

Mythical being key

| Multiverse level, likely Multiverse level+ (A Mythical Being surpasses the limits of biological evolution and laws of physics,[158] and can wipe out everything[185] in the universe with a thought. They can manipulate a four-dimensional space[176] to create a vortex that can absorb countless three-dimensional spaces. A Mythical Being can travel[169] along the River of Time, River of Destiny, the Main Storyline, the memory chain, anything, all these being the same thing but under different names where infinite universes[186] exist, including multiple timelines[187] which they can partially destroy alone. All of it existing within the Void Realm, an infinite sized[181] imaginary world where nothing exists but also where everything exists.[171] While the Void Realm is just a dream,[188] a story in the brain of another being which they have transcended[181] by leaving it). Multiverse level+ with Dao Integration (After using Dao Integration,[156] he will be able to use the power of all Rules making possible to manipulate the Space-Time Rule[41] which can reverse even the destruction of the River of Time, Main Story)

If he had tier 2 equipments on his legendary key why is he only 5-C. Maybe you're confusing AP with Range ?

His resistances scales to beings that of the said tier, in this case of the Creator/Dreamer/Author as the entire novel is within the mind of an author, who was writting a novel and Wang Wei somehow existed there when he wasn't part of the story, and wasn't affected by its cosmos laws and what the author was writting/imaginating to happen. Its hax potency.

Its not 1-A, someone dreaming or transcending something its not instant 1-A, not that even close without actual backing and good reasoning. When the thread for its meta hax/tier 2 stuff happened it was accepted as "At least 2-B* likely 2-A". Since then things changed and it become a bit easier to scale some things. If the profile would have been posted now his resistences potency would be Low 1-C.

DK this guy seem like 1-A. Link for tier 2 thread ?

He doesn't have resistances against concept and information manipulation. But with how Domains work in the verse if his opponent can't resist them, then powers are useless. Before something can affect a being with a domain it must first be able to overpower it (usually with their own domain), in this case Wei got the Nirvana/Death Domain which kills anything within its range. He can just point/glance for something to be disintegrated and/or shatter (powers include).

Hajime resist those, and Wei lack of resistance mean he'll just get stomped by his hax.


What's stopping Hajime from just copying and nullifying everything ?