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Weakest character that can beat Misogi Kumagawa
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Hmm. Maybe we should not allow versus threads with Medaka Box characters?
Due to that it is a very strange and ambiguous metafiction parody manga, people tend to have either very strong positive or negative feelings about it, as well as extremely different impressions about how the powers within it work. It constantly seems to cause controversy.
Due to that it is a very strange and ambiguous metafiction parody manga, people tend to have either very strong positive or negative feelings about it, as well as extremely different impressions about how the powers within it work. It constantly seems to cause controversy.
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Well, I don't think you should ban them but you should be required to specify what you are referring to. Kumagawa is limited in several areas in canon, but many people consider that PIS so that's why people have different standards for how his abilities work.
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Well, the story contradicts itself enormously from instance to instance thanks to the whole "let's constantly subvert or exaggerate all storytelling tropes" part of it. The entire plot and power scaling mechanics are deliberately written as incoherent nonsense, so people will have wildly different impressions depending on which part of the story they focus on. So I don't know if it is suitable for versus threads.
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As much as I love Medaka Box, I have to agree, with the way it's written it really doesn't seem to work in verse debates
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Well, it depends, mostly of the Vs Threads that involves Medaka Box here, they were fine.
At least, Medaka Box it requieres some understanding about the "Power levels". I can not expect that someone who never read the series can understand it.
Unless the Vs Thread It is well done.
All Fiction has weaknesses, the problem is that sometimes people don't get it and assume something like: Oh, Kumagawa can erase time...so, by erasing time he can blizt "X" character who himself if MFTL+.
That is a massive NFL.
Before making a Medaka Box Vs Thread i recomend read at least 10 times the Fallacy page. IMHO.
At least, Medaka Box it requieres some understanding about the "Power levels". I can not expect that someone who never read the series can understand it.
Unless the Vs Thread It is well done.
All Fiction has weaknesses, the problem is that sometimes people don't get it and assume something like: Oh, Kumagawa can erase time...so, by erasing time he can blizt "X" character who himself if MFTL+.
That is a massive NFL.
Before making a Medaka Box Vs Thread i recomend read at least 10 times the Fallacy page. IMHO.
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can time travel ability defeat misogi ?
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it should, afterall if the user goes back and stops misogi from being created it could prevent his existence (and with that also the existence of allfiction),Raito Utopia said:
but im not sure, maybe allfiction could be used in order to make his own "non-existence" fiction, but this is onyl speculation, as far as i know, he should be wiped out of existence ^_^
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it should, afterall if the user goes back and stops misogi from being created it could prevent his existence (and with that also the existence of allfiction),Raito Utopia said:
but im not sure, maybe allfiction could be used in order to make his own "non-existence" fiction, but this is onyl speculation, as far as i know, he should be wiped out of existence ^_^
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Book Maker is more of a last resort thing against users immune to reality warping.
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I think the only easy way to kill him is go back to time, kill him lol.
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Should this thread still be going?
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Obviously since All Fiction wouldn't be able to touch her. However as I know nothing about Reimu, can she actually destroy Kumagawa by other methods than physically?Andykhang said:
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I don't think Reimu can handle All Fiction. Pretty much you need a character who can manipulate reality to break All Fiction.
Reimu's float out of reality is just a tech to hide/evade from the opponent, kinda like Saber's Avalon.
Reimu's float out of reality is just a tech to hide/evade from the opponent, kinda like Saber's Avalon.
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One way is to deal damage that he can't heal with, like with ilhiko. More precisely though, a damage that carve meaning into the opponent, like how that guy carve destruction into the opponent body(in my opinion. His power are commented to be similar to "style", which is like using meaning from word) so that it could never heal (then again, when he fight him, his All Fiction is really weaken). Reimu is a specialist in that (well, she only dealt with the youkai though, who are weak with "meaningful" attack in the first place). Another is to seal him or to seperating him from reality altogether and leave him there, which Reimu can do both. (Much be a special type of seal though, or he just gonna make it "not exist")UmbryTiddlywink said:
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Andykhang said:
I don't remember about how Reimu can seperate her enemies from reality. When did that happen? Or is it through her barrier creation?
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She never do that, but she could send object to "float" with her, so that's an educated guess.
Of course, if you dismissed that, then i guess she can only put him in a stalemate (i doubt she got enough patience to repeatingly shoot bullet at his body until he actually gave up)
Of course, if you dismissed that, then i guess she can only put him in a stalemate (i doubt she got enough patience to repeatingly shoot bullet at his body until he actually gave up)
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What.UmbryTiddlywink said:
Book Maker is actually his primary weapon. He rarely uses All Fiction for something that is not regen or utility.
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On topic: Literally everyone. Kumagawa is a loser.
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Pretty much you need a character who can manipulate reality to break All Fiction.
No.
Neko Kuroha enough.
No.
Neko Kuroha enough.
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@A6colute:
FTL Higher dimensional black holes??
FTL Higher dimensional black holes??
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Piece Dlanor, maybe.
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What.
Book Maker is actually his primary weapon. He rarely uses All Fiction for something that is not regen or utility.
All Fiction is literally his main weapon now. Besides the battle with Medaka in which he didn't have All Fiction anymore. He's only ever used book maker to end fights or to stop the opponent without killing them.
Book Maker is actually his primary weapon. He rarely uses All Fiction for something that is not regen or utility.
All Fiction is literally his main weapon now. Besides the battle with Medaka in which he didn't have All Fiction anymore. He's only ever used book maker to end fights or to stop the opponent without killing them.
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One way is to deal damage that he can't heal with, like with ilhiko. More precisely though, a damage that carve meaning into the opponent, like how that guy carve destruction into the opponent body(in my opinion. His power are commented to be similar to "style", which is like using meaning from word) so that it could never heal (then again, when he fight him, his All Fiction is really weaken). Reimu is a specialist in that (well, she only dealt with the youkai though, who are weak with "meaningful" attack in the first place). Another is to seal him or to seperating him from reality altogether and leave him there, which Reimu can do both. (Much be a special type of seal though, or he just gonna make it "not exist")
A weakened All Fiction was stated not to be able to erase things that have meaning. Kuamagawa would still be able to erase that sort of thing with a full powered All Fiction. Ihiko's ability is so ridiculous to categorise as it seems to have an immunity to everything.
A weakened All Fiction was stated not to be able to erase things that have meaning. Kuamagawa would still be able to erase that sort of thing with a full powered All Fiction. Ihiko's ability is so ridiculous to categorise as it seems to have an immunity to everything.
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Ihiko's damage cannot be undone, that's his ability. There's nothing saying that he couldn't just make Reimu's attacks nothing. Though, with morals on, this thread would be pointless because Kumagawa never wins.Andykhang said:
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I don't think being able to defeat people on the lowest end of Tier 2 makes you "unbeatable".SaiyanGod1 said:
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misogi can beat thanos , even galactus ? this is a big wankSaiyanGod1 said:
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@SaiyanGod1
The actual extent of Ajimu's power is highly questionable given her lack of feats, and she is certainly not nigh-omnipotent. You are wanking. You should probably stop doing so.
The actual extent of Ajimu's power is highly questionable given her lack of feats, and she is certainly not nigh-omnipotent. You are wanking. You should probably stop doing so.
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He probably wouldn't have listened so i blocked him.
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