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Which ability is superior and why?
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Void Manipulation vs Destruction
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depends on how the quantity of the moves but void manipulation>>>>>>>>pure destruction due to it erasing the person or target into nothingness (in most cases) while pure destruction doesn't go to that extent
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I see. That makes sense.
Can you also confirm that Acausals can survive in infinite timelines or am I mistaken?
Can you also confirm that Acausals can survive in infinite timelines or am I mistaken?
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acausals are hard to kill due to hoping to another timeline when they die in a way idk if its infinite but its just a pain to kill them for good
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The fact that Beerus deleted people from existence is quite interesting lol
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Okay. About Acausality. Let's pretend that I time travel to the past and I steal the Time Ring before Goku in the past used it. Would present/future Goku Black turn back into his Base Form instantly?
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not sure what do you mean
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@TISSG7Redgrave
Adam's point is wondering if a time paradox will work on an Acausal being if the source of their Acausality is taken away in the past.
This is a really hard question, but I'd imagine not, given that the very definition of Acausality is that events that happen in the past won't affect them in the future.
That said, there aren't a lot of characters on the wiki that are like that (the only other one I can remember that's like this is Mamoru Higashikawa, who went back in time to stop the event that gave him his powers but still had them anyway).
Adam's point is wondering if a time paradox will work on an Acausal being if the source of their Acausality is taken away in the past.
This is a really hard question, but I'd imagine not, given that the very definition of Acausality is that events that happen in the past won't affect them in the future.
That said, there aren't a lot of characters on the wiki that are like that (the only other one I can remember that's like this is Mamoru Higashikawa, who went back in time to stop the event that gave him his powers but still had them anyway).
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ahh thx for the clarification Rep but from what ik yes the time ring alone gave some acausality to Goku Black so i doubt it would work tbh
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Reppuzan:
Oh boy imagine if Super Dimentio used the Star Rod to time travel to the past then bring another Super Dimentio with him only to keep on repeating that infinitely oh boy Paper Mario (Pure Hearts) isn't gonna like this. Good thing Super Dimentio wasn't bloodlusted in the Paper Mario games lol
I heard that Flash time travelled to the past to save his mom only to mess with the timelines thus he never got his powers lol Hmmm should that hint an Acausal Flash?
Oh boy imagine if Super Dimentio used the Star Rod to time travel to the past then bring another Super Dimentio with him only to keep on repeating that infinitely oh boy Paper Mario (Pure Hearts) isn't gonna like this. Good thing Super Dimentio wasn't bloodlusted in the Paper Mario games lol
I heard that Flash time travelled to the past to save his mom only to mess with the timelines thus he never got his powers lol Hmmm should that hint an Acausal Flash?
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@Adam
I mean, he lost his powers until he reenacted the experiment that gave them to him twice, nearly killing himself the first time.
We can't give people powers that they have not demonstrated or alluded to in practice, so your hypothetical scenario wouldn't work out.
I mean, he lost his powers until he reenacted the experiment that gave them to him twice, nearly killing himself the first time.
We can't give people powers that they have not demonstrated or alluded to in practice, so your hypothetical scenario wouldn't work out.
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Reppuzan:
From what you're saying. I can conclude for example that if Paper Mario (Pure Hearts) used the Star Rod to travel back to the past to steal the Chaos Heart then Super Dimentio in the present/future will revert into Base Dimentio instantly thus Base Dimentio loses Acausality until it reclaims the Chaos Heart and brainwashes Luigi again to transform into Super Dimentio.
Sorry If I misunderstood what you're about to say next.
From what you're saying. I can conclude for example that if Paper Mario (Pure Hearts) used the Star Rod to travel back to the past to steal the Chaos Heart then Super Dimentio in the present/future will revert into Base Dimentio instantly thus Base Dimentio loses Acausality until it reclaims the Chaos Heart and brainwashes Luigi again to transform into Super Dimentio.
Sorry If I misunderstood what you're about to say next.
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@Adam
Actually, I said the opposite. The point of Acausality is to be unaffected by changes in the timeline, so what happens in the past doesn't affect you. Thus it doesn't matter if the Time Ring was taken away earlier in the timeline since Goku Black is acausal now, thus making changes to the past irrelevant to him.
That said, there aren't enough cases that I'm aware of to make a clear judgment on this.
Actually, I said the opposite. The point of Acausality is to be unaffected by changes in the timeline, so what happens in the past doesn't affect you. Thus it doesn't matter if the Time Ring was taken away earlier in the timeline since Goku Black is acausal now, thus making changes to the past irrelevant to him.
That said, there aren't enough cases that I'm aware of to make a clear judgment on this.
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Reppuzan:
It turns out I misunderstood, I thought that he was Acausal before he time travelled to the past to stop the event that gave him his powers but still had them anyway.
What would you call it if Super Dimentio were to keep on time travelling to the past to bring another Super Dimentio to help him against Paper Mario (Pure Hearts)...exploiting paradoxes correct?
It turns out I misunderstood, I thought that he was Acausal before he time travelled to the past to stop the event that gave him his powers but still had them anyway.
What would you call it if Super Dimentio were to keep on time travelling to the past to bring another Super Dimentio to help him against Paper Mario (Pure Hearts)...exploiting paradoxes correct?
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