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Half demon vs a living pile of sludge. Mainland Muk. Speed equal. Muk has a berry.
The Baby Killer.
The Baby Killer.
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Vergil vs Muk
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Wow, Muk is surprisingly haxed. Imo it probably takes this. Only thing that Vergil has that will kill Muk fast enough is his soul manipulation, while Muk could incapacitate Vergil just by touching him, as well as inflicting various status effects useful in the long run
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It really doesn't seem to have any defense, I don't see what stops Vergil from teleporting behind it and slashing it with Yamato or using a Devil Trigger attacks or Judgement cuts.
There's so many different techniques with Yamato it'd be unfair to assume Muk would never get struck even once, which is all it takes for a sword that ignores durability.
There's so many different techniques with Yamato it'd be unfair to assume Muk would never get struck even once, which is all it takes for a sword that ignores durability.
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Yeah I saw that, so a single touch kills Vergil...
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Muk for reasons above
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muk would probably win, via the fact that on touch and virgil it's done and virgil is and i quote the page "Dangerously overconfident", so he would probably just try to stab muk, the blade would gets stuck and it would lead him open for an attack
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Where does that come from exactly? What makes the page say he is?
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Muk for reasons above
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Yes, it's obvious from him going all out with Devil Trigger when Dante's on even ground, having doubts about his plan with Arkham etc....
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and he would totally go all out on a pile of sludge from the start of the fight
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Arkham was a huge pile of sludge, tho. Yamato was cutting just as cleanly through him.
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>> Space cutting bladeOverlord775 said:
>> Would get stuck.
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You are correct, as he did it against Arkham.Overlord775 said:
Wait a minute Cal why Vergil instead of Arkham?!
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Who's Arkham?
Also, because you and BFF were complaining about a Vergil match ovo
Also, because you and BFF were complaining about a Vergil match ovo
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Well I think Arkham's would be literally the perfect opponent.
A boss in DMC3
A boss in DMC3
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@Cal
Arkham.
Anyways, just giving a heads-up:
1. Yamato would cut cleanly through Muk.
2. Vergil doesn't really mess around in his battles. A wounded Beowulf who was pretty much a joke to him at that point came to fight him and he still oneshotted it without saying one word to brag or holding back at all.
With that being said, I don't remember Vergil having anything to get through regen on Muk's level (I legit don't know what his Soul Manip is all about). He'll cut it over and over, maybe to pieces time and again but it will just regen and multiply, I guess.
Arkham.
Anyways, just giving a heads-up:
1. Yamato would cut cleanly through Muk.
2. Vergil doesn't really mess around in his battles. A wounded Beowulf who was pretty much a joke to him at that point came to fight him and he still oneshotted it without saying one word to brag or holding back at all.
With that being said, I don't remember Vergil having anything to get through regen on Muk's level (I legit don't know what his Soul Manip is all about). He'll cut it over and over, maybe to pieces time and again but it will just regen and multiply, I guess.
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Also you have the wrong Vergil...
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Muk for reasons above plus stat amp (Acid Armor doubles his durability) and power nullification (Disable can negate Yamato's spatial manipulation)
Also, I doubt Vergil is gonna take Muk as seriously as he did Arkham
Also, I doubt Vergil is gonna take Muk as seriously as he did Arkham
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>> Disable can negate Yamato's spatial manipulation.
>> Disable can negate Yamato's spatial manipulation.
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>> Disable can negate Yamato's spatial manipulation.
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Disable prevents the enemy from using the last attack it did, as in a skill.
It won't make people literally unable to move their arms and do a blade swing or go nullifying inanimate space-cutting blades.
It won't make people literally unable to move their arms and do a blade swing or go nullifying inanimate space-cutting blades.
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Disable works on moves such as Drain Punch and Bone Club, as well as Space manipulating attacks such a Palkia's spacial rend. I'm sure disable will have some sort of effect on Vergil and Yamato.
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It has an effect on living beings. Not inanimate objects. He can't disable a space-cutting sword from being a space-cutting sword. (Also scalling a mainland Muk against Palkia is one hell of an outlier. 2-B Muk when?)
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I want that immediately. ovo
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Bone Club is literally Just hitting your opponent with a normal bone, yet that can be disabled. And I'm not trying to scale Muk to Palkia, I was just showng an example of Disable working on spatial manipulation. If you believe that Disable won't work given the situation of how it's being used, that's perfectly fine. I just believe otherwise, considering what else it can work on. Nevertheless, I'm sticking with Muk.
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You can't compare stopping someone from clubbing you with a bone again after they clubbed you with it once (which is again, a SKILL, no matter how simple) to nullifying the properties of a Space-Cutting Blade so that it loses said property. And again, saying "It nullifies Palkia's Spatial Rend" is the outlier of the century. Put Muk vs Palkia in a thread, limit Palkia to using Spatial Rend only and try to argue that Muk stops it with disable.
See where that goes.
Other than that, sure. I said myself that Vergil has no way of getting past Muk's regen.
See where that goes.
Other than that, sure. I said myself that Vergil has no way of getting past Muk's regen.
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Disable also nullifies Trick Room, Magic Room, and Wonder Room, which are all Spatial manipulation
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No, what it does is prevent living beings from using said skills again after they just used it.
Besides, wherever this discussion goes is irrelevant when with or without Spatial Manip, Vergil can't get through Muk's regen. It's just that "Disable nullifies Yamato" makes no sense.
Besides, wherever this discussion goes is irrelevant when with or without Spatial Manip, Vergil can't get through Muk's regen. It's just that "Disable nullifies Yamato" makes no sense.
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@Aqua My point with Yamato is nitpicking.
I never said Vergil beats Muk ever since I got here.
I never said Vergil beats Muk ever since I got here.
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Most ghost types and a few steel types would disagree with being called "living", but I'd rather not derail this thread.
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Sure. You can count my vote for Muk if you want, Cal.
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Count me as a vote for Muk as well.
Though I'm not sure if a guy who's weapons can't counter High Mid regen and gets incapacitated with a single touch is a stomp, but eh, it's cool.
Though I'm not sure if a guy who's weapons can't counter High Mid regen and gets incapacitated with a single touch is a stomp, but eh, it's cool.
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At best that makes him pound Muk with weak swords
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