koopa3144
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- FIght takes place on a populated street at night
- Venom and Phantom Blood Dio are being used
- Distance is 20 meters
- Speed is equalized
- SBA for anything else
| Venom: 0 | Dio Brando: 7
| Incon: 0 |
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Venom vs Dio Brando (0-7-0) (Concluded)
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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So can Venom resist Dio freezing him just by touching him? If not then any attempt at melee combat, which is Venom's bread and butter in most cases, ends in his demise.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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The Symbiote might heal from it but Eddie himself will die as he only has Mid Regen unlike Carnage who can heal like his human body and Symbiote the same way.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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That's all well and good, but Venom almost never starts a fight that way so in-character he's gonna either start by sneaking up on him while invisible if he starts out of sight and then getting into melee or he's just gonna rush at Dio guns blazing.
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Yeah, he uses it in every single exchange after learning it, every time he physically touched or got touched. This obviously includes the start of every fight (Unless you count when he was just a disembodied head).
noninho
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So
If by any means there's Regeneration here, why would this one do any different from Hamon's Regeneration (that, in fights against Dio wasn't even considered (afaik))? Is it faster? is it higher (than "Regeneration (Mid-Low, can heal a broken neck, broken bones and scars with Hamon)") ? How exactly does it work and why would it do any better against Dio's freezing?
If by any means there's Regeneration here, why would this one do any different from Hamon's Regeneration (that, in fights against Dio wasn't even considered (afaik))? Is it faster? is it higher (than "Regeneration (Mid-Low, can heal a broken neck, broken bones and scars with Hamon)") ? How exactly does it work and why would it do any better against Dio's freezing?
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What?
Hamon regeneration doesn't help against Dio's freezing if that's what you mean. Nobody brings it up because it never did anything at all, not withstanding Dio invented freezing to counter Hamon by freezing a Hamon practitioners blood flow to begin with.
Freezing hard counters Hamon basically, the Regen never once helped them deal with Dio.
Hamon regeneration doesn't help against Dio's freezing if that's what you mean. Nobody brings it up because it never did anything at all, not withstanding Dio invented freezing to counter Hamon by freezing a Hamon practitioners blood flow to begin with.
Freezing hard counters Hamon basically, the Regen never once helped them deal with Dio.
noninho
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that's exactly what i meant.
a nice regen like Hamon's wasn't enough to be thought while fighting him. my question was how would Venom's regen be better than hamon's (both on "how fast/how good" and on "why would he think about doing that") despite, again, a nice regen like hamon's wasn't even cogited, so it'd need to give a ton more benefits to be used....i really hope i could make myself understood...
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Dio just disabled their ability to use Hamon by freezing their bodies and therefore their blood flow
noninho
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fast blood flow could mean increasing the body temperature, which could at least make them freeze on a lower pace
not going to repeat myself that i meant about Venom's regen qualification, lmao.
noninho
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Only voting cuz noone answered me so ig his regen goes the same way and nothing else was argued in Venom's favour afaik
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There wasn't much reasoning beyond "freeze"
although Venom doesn't resist those temperatures according to his profile so Dio probably wins by freezing him and shattering him
although Venom doesn't resist those temperatures according to his profile so Dio probably wins by freezing him and shattering him
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Maybe wait for the experts tho
koopa3144
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Well, the Venom Symbiote's regen is a good bit higher than what Hamon users have and as I said above, Venom could use tendrils and webs from a distance to avoid Dio's Vaporization Freezing Technique. He can also make use of the environment to avoid getting hit by Dio's Vaporization Freezing Technique by doing things like weaponizing street lamps or throwing things like cars.
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Once again
Dio doesn't neg regen specifically he just disables the ability to use Hamon by stopping what it necessitates (blood flow)
also it was agreed that Venom was likely to just throw hands which would get him frozen
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Yeah, his arm? And if Dio tries to grab him, which he would, it could even be his whole body. It isnt like Dio himself won't be actively trying to fight him as well.
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Dio also isn't dumb, he won't play his hand immediately if it won't actually work. Obviously, he'd wait till he's in cqc to use unless he absolutely must to protect himself.
And besides, Venom goes straight into CQC all the time, he's a brawler. Yeah Venom might use tendrils sometimes, and he'd use it if he knows better, but he doesn't. And if he tries to play range for some unknown reason, that'd just force Dio to use SRSE, which is arguably even worse.
And besides, Venom goes straight into CQC all the time, he's a brawler. Yeah Venom might use tendrils sometimes, and he'd use it if he knows better, but he doesn't. And if he tries to play range for some unknown reason, that'd just force Dio to use SRSE, which is arguably even worse.
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That's fine, but that doesn't actually help given even if it's HIM doing the hitting, he'd get affected. And not to mention Dio has a handful of abilities that can catch him off guard too like being able to control pieces of himself that have been torn off or eye beams.
noninho
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Was the OP always this pretty? Damn, good Job @koopa3144
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Actually, not so much, The World do be faster, but Dio is ALSO MFTL. It isn't like most dudes where it's a ten fucktillion times gap. It'd be like comparing a normal person to a pro boxer in this case, same ballpark.
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