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Vegeta vs Superboy-Prime
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Superboy retcon punch
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Neither have hax however Superboy has superior ap and expierence
Voting for superboy
Voting for superboy
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Captain Atom is Low 2-C, Monarch (bad Captain Atom) defeated and absorbed 52 of them into his power, and SBP was casually matching him with the Guardian amp. Base SBP survived Monarch's detonation even when the comic stated his Guardian amp had all but run out. Voting for SBP in both scenarios.
ABoogieYesSir
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Superboy fra.
Stefano4444
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Pretty sure that Vegeta had far more combat experience than Prime.Celestial Judge said:
Stefano4444
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Anyway.
Round 1: Vegeta likely stomp.
Round 2: Prime with mid difficulty.
Round 1: Vegeta likely stomp.
Round 2: Prime with mid difficulty.
Stefano4444
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You cannot scale that feat with his Base, the Guardian Amp was still on when he has tank Monarch's detonation.Malikobama1 said:
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You cannot scale that feat with his Base, the Guardian Amp was still on when he has tank Monarch's detonation.
What? Lol. You know how many powerful warriors SBP has fought? Vegeta has fought maybe 20 strong heros from dbz to dbs?
Prime has fought 39 Captain Atoms, a bunch of different supermen, a good chunk of the green lantern corps, and a whole bunch of other characters.
Sbp has way more battle experience.
What? Lol. You know how many powerful warriors SBP has fought? Vegeta has fought maybe 20 strong heros from dbz to dbs?
Prime has fought 39 Captain Atoms, a bunch of different supermen, a good chunk of the green lantern corps, and a whole bunch of other characters.
Sbp has way more battle experience.
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And how will Vegeta stomp? LMAO BRUH
Stefano4444
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That was Monarch who had fought 39 Captain Atoms, don't mashup characters feats please.Celestial Judge said:
And the number of people you had fought has nothing to do with your combat experience.
The combat experience is depend by how many time someone had fight over the course of their entire life.
And Vegeta has trained and fought battles since he was a little kid.
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Actually that's not true, according to Monarch.Stefano4444 said:
He survived the explosion without his amp. He also destroyed Monarch's armor without his amp.
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Round 1: SBP is 1000+ times baseline due to the size of the DCU. He casually takes round 1.
Round 2: SBP takes round 2 for the reasons above.
Round 2: SBP takes round 2 for the reasons above.
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Iirc I once saw a post showing that if the 100 trillion ly distance (which was only between the Milky Way and another galaxy) was doubled to attempt to lowball it less it came out to like 100 million times baseline lol. Pretty sure the 100 trillion would still be way more than 1000
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Can someone show the scans of the aftermath of SBP tanking Monarch's detonation? Was he knocked out?
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Yeah he was knocked out. Doesn't matter much regarding this fight though, because he was unamped at the time. And his 3-A version scales so much higher than Vegeta's 3-A versions do.
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Wrong, the energies from the Guardian were used up yes, but he was still in his adult form, the amp was still active during the fight, even if he was shrinking back to his Base.Malikobama1 said:
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Bruh his Guardian energy was literally used up lol. You can't mental gymnastics your way out of that
And it doesn't even matter for this thread, Primetime stomps in 3-A and scales way higher in Low 2-C
And it doesn't even matter for this thread, Primetime stomps in 3-A and scales way higher in Low 2-C
Stefano4444
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Monarch say he was shrinking back, not that he had shrinked back to a teenager.Malikobama1 said:
Prime was only start to lose the strength from the Amp, it was still on during the fight.
He was still after all in his Adult Form again Monarch.
Stefano4444
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I disagree.The real cal howard said:
The physical size in of the universe in the DCverse may be in the trillions of light years, but that doesn't means that destroy one of them now requid to be 1000+ baseline Universal.
The physical size of our know universe is still unknown and latest observations even suggest that the universe may be at least 250 times bigger than what the visible universe.
So even if your logic may be correct, destroy the universe in the DCverse would only be 4+ baseline Universal.
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This is a stomp I don't know why it isn't closed yet.
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Our baseline for 3-A is visible universe, because anything past that is speculation and theories.
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Darkanine said:
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It's true that string theory isn't a theory
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@Stefano
Dude you're literally ignoring what's on the page for the sake of your own belief. At the end of the fight, prior to the final explosion, Prime's Guardian energy ran out. He survived the explosion without that energy amping him. Disputing that is extremely disingenuous.
Dude you're literally ignoring what's on the page for the sake of your own belief. At the end of the fight, prior to the final explosion, Prime's Guardian energy ran out. He survived the explosion without that energy amping him. Disputing that is extremely disingenuous.
Stefano4444
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Exactly, the Guardian Amp was still active during the fight with Monarch, even if he was shrinking back and he was getting weaken.
Prime only returned normal after the Universal+ explosion, due of this the feat doesn't get scaled with his Base Form.
Prime only returned normal after the Universal+ explosion, due of this the feat doesn't get scaled with his Base Form.
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Look, the bottom line is, your stance is predicated on your interpretation of the art, while mine is taken directly from what the author wrote. It's basic grammar. Monarch didn't say he was running out, he directly said the energy was already gone, past tense. It doesn't matter if his body was still in the process of shrinking or not, the energy was already gone.
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No, what you're doing is just take only half of the statement, while ignoring the other part. What you're doing is not basic grammar, is just an example of Half - Truth Fallacy.Malikobama1 said:
- Monarch: You're running out of juice. The energy you absorbed from that Guardian is used up. You're shrinking back down kid.Malikobama1 said:
Yes, the energy was gone but the Amp itself wasn't, Prime was just start to lose strength from the power boost, he hasn't return back as a teenager during the fight, over the entire Countdown series Superboy-Prime was Superma-Prime.
Yes it does, because Superboy-Prime is a teenager, he isn't an adult, if he was still an adult it prove that the Amp was still on, which is conferm by Monarch himself.Malikobama1 said:
