Vegeta vs Shadow but a little different

[Theuser789]

Ki is life energy, the emeralds wouldn't fit as Ki even with verse equalization

I thought it would be a cool match too, kill two birds with one stone. I don't think I've really made a ton of threads specifically for answering unrelated questions but if I have then, I'm sorry.

It's fine, you haven't done it that much, apologies if I was rude

 

[JJSliderman]

Shadow would stomp him now. This should just be removed

Doesn't Zeno's EE surpass normal resistances? So it could still work.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Doesn't Zeno's EE surpass normal resistances? So it could still work.

Oh, then it can be kept.

Lets focus on the match

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Doesn't Zeno's EE surpass normal resistances? So it could still work.

Not really. Zeno's EE Potency is 4D due to him erasing universes with EE, but Base Shadow already resisted Time Eater's EE as well, who also erased a universe. which is also 4D EE potency

 

[JJSliderman]

Zeno's EE erased 6 universes at once.

 

[JED]

Oh, then it can be kept.

Lets focus on the match

I mean, at this point the match is a stomp so does it even really matter lol.
But really, since this is a stomp shouldn’t this be closed?

 

[ElixirBlue]

But really, since this is a stomp shouldn’t this be closed?

Er, whats the stomp argument?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Er, whats the stomp argument?

Base Shadow resists Zeno's EE, and this was literally Zeno's only wincon and is stomped horribly otherwise

 

[JED]

Er, whats the stomp argument?

Vegeta’s only wincon afaik was the Spirit Fission, which was determined wouldn’t work against Shadow.

 

[JJSliderman]

Yeah but now it's 4-A Super Shadow
So Vegeta one-shots.

 

[JED]

Base Shadow resists Zeno's EE, and this was literally Zeno's only wincon and is stomped horribly otherwise

Pretty sure he was talking about this thread right here on Vegeta vs Shadow lol

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Zeno's EE erased 6 universes at once.

EE doesn't rely on AP, only dimensionality level, and since both Zeno and TE can erase 4D contstructs, their potency is comparable

 

[JJSliderman]

I thought EE depended on potency.
TE could erase 1 universe of space, Zen'o has the potency to erase 6.

If it's just dimensionality then ok.

 

[JED]

Yeah but now it's 4-A Super Shadow
So Vegeta one-shots.

Wait what’s Vegeta’s AP?

 

[JJSliderman]

He's Multi-Galaxy

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Wait what’s Vegeta’s AP?

DBS's 3-Bs are basically almost 3-A

 

[JED]

I didn’t know that. Ok so if he has the much of an AP advantage then ok it by rules isn’t a stomp.
Even so, Shadow FRA.

 

[sanicspood]

shadow starts with bfr?

 

[sanicspood]

also i never voted yet remove my vote

 

[JJSliderman]

Sorry, I assumed your first comment was a vote.

 

[Theuser789]

Shadow starts with Chaos Control, If his attacks don't work he would probably BFR

 

[sanicspood]

chaos sphere can stun right? that would already work from the beginning. and if it works does he still bfr even after?

 

[Theuser789]

Chaos Sphere doesn't exist, and Shadow knows the stun effect isn't permanent

 

[JED]

chaos sphere can stun right? that would already work from the beginning. and if it works does he still bfr even after?

It paralyzes and negates durability.

Chaos Sphere doesn't exist, and Shadow knows the stun effect isn't permanent

I think he meant Chaos Spear.

 

[sanicspood]

Chaos Sphere doesn't exist, and Shadow knows the stun effect isn't permanent

i meant spear lol

 

[VinnyXD]

Not really. Zeno's EE Potency is 4D due to him erasing universes with EE, but Base Shadow already resisted Time Eater's EE as well, who also erased a universe. which is also 4D EE potency

Doesn't Zeno also erase souls

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Doesn't Zeno also erase souls

Still just EE. And Time Eater can do that too as ghosts exists in Sonic's world and he can erase them

 

[JED]

Still just EE. And Time Eater can do that too as ghosts exists in Sonic's world and he can erase them

Doesn’t Shadow resist soul manip anyways?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Doesn’t Shadow resist soul manip anyways?

Yes he does

 

[JED]

Bump

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Honestly, dimensionality is fairly misunderstood