Vecna vs Rimuru Tempest

[Lancer45Man]

Vecna vs Rimuru Tempest



2-C Versions of Both

In Character but no PIS

Speed Equalized

SBA

Who Wins???

Vecna:

Slime:

Inconclusive:

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The Imprisonment spell is sealing that blocks off 2-A range. What's Tempest's answer to that?

 

[Lancer45Man]

No idea lol. Is this a stomp? Is the spell passive?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

It's not, his probabilty manipulation and precog are passive, none of his other abilities are. That being said, his probability manipulation allows him to set the chance of things to 100% or 0%, so it's really good

 

[Lancer45Man]

Ah so Rimuru has a chance here. Still gonna have to wait for Tensei experts unless this a stomp.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The Imprisonment spell is weird and has multiple uses

• Put someone a magical sphere beneath the earth that blocks 2-A range

• Put someone in magical chains that block 2-A range and prevent all powers from being used

• Put someone in a pocket reality that blocks 2-A range

• Put someone in a gemstone while they can't do anything or move and the gemstone can't be broken by physical means

• Put someone in an eternal sleep

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

IIRC, Vecna can negate really good resistance to mind manipulation

 

[OpMasada]

So what does vecna start with? Prob manip is worrisome but rimuru also has prob manip and ciel would likely realize prob manip BS is happening after a bit and possibly upgrade rimuru's prob manip with void god azathoth

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Is his probability manipulation on the level of "The chance of this happening is now 100%/0%" at will?

 

[OpMasada]

Is his probability manipulation on the level of "The chance of this happening is now 100%/0%" at will?

His prob manip has said "lolno" to raphael's calculation of 100% prob defense.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Wait, what do you mean?

 

[OpMasada]

Wait, what do you mean?

During veldora's fight with rimuru, veldora ( who has the ability ) lolnoped rimuru's calculation of a barrier with 100% probability to defend

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's... not even probability manipulation. What?

 

[OpMasada]

That's... not even probability manipulation. What?

Did I not word it right? I was saying the ability ( the prob manip ) messed with rimuru's calculations.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

How is that setting probability to 100% or whatever?

 

[OpMasada]

How is that setting probability to 100% or whatever?

My explanation was that his ability can alter 100% prob, is that not good enough against vecna?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

No, that would be good enough, I just don't see how that ability counts as that

 

[OpMasada]

No, that would be good enough, I just don't see how that ability counts as that

Rimuru calculated his barrier to have 100% defense against an attack from veldora, veldora destroyed it via prob manip.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's just forcefield destruction

 

[OpMasada]

That's just forcefield Destruction

How is that forcefield destruction and not prob manip? The story itself said it was prob manip

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Forciefield destruction via probability manipulation

 

[OpMasada]

Ok so you admit that it's prob manip.... can you explain the problem?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

It's on a lesser scale

Also, what's his defense against sealing that blocks 2-A range?

 

[OpMasada]

It's on a lesser scale
Also, what's his defense against sealing that blocks 2-A range?

Should've just said that.

By blocking 2-A range, you mean blocking 2-A's or their literal capable range?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Blocking beings who can travel to an infinite amount of universes from escaping the seal

 

[OpMasada]

Blocking beings who can travel to an infinite amount of universes from escaping the seal

Hm, that doesn't really seem to be notable evidence for the seal's strength, unless this wiki considers blocking transfer of that magnitude equates to power.. Who has he perfomed the seal on, has anyone broken from the seal? How did they do it.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Basically

High level playable characters are 2-C

High level playable characters that use magic have 2-A portal creation and teleportation

His sealing blocks those

 

[OpMasada]

Basically
High level playable characters are 2-C

High level playable characters that use magic have 2-A portal creation and teleportation

His sealing blocks those

Again, I don't think someone's range is a valid feat for the powers of the seal, is there any notable strength of this seal other than it can seal 2-C's? Do these 2-C's have resistance to sealing yet still get sealed?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Does tempest resist sealing to some degree?

 

[OpMasada]

Does tempest resist sealing to some degree?

Yes, he has shown capability to analyze and negate seals.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Can you be more specific? Like, does he teleport out of them or, what?

 

[OpMasada]

Can you be more specific? Like, does he teleport out of them or, what?

No, he does his main shtick of analyzing, copying and BSing his way out of it.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That wouldn't work on something that is blocked against cross-dimensional travel on a 2-A scale

 

[OpMasada]

That wouldn't work on something that is blocked against cross-dimensional travel on a 2-A scale

Does the range of cross-dimensional travel affect the potency of a seal? You can simply block cross-dimensional travel and it would have the same effect regardless of your range no?

 

[Moritzva]

I have no clue how Rimuru went from a cute slime to fighting Vecna.

And I can't even pit her against Nicol Bolas yet, how lame!

I'm going to watch this. May vote later.

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Tempest isn't 2-C anymore

So, this is a stomp, in whose favor depends on which vecna key you use.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Ok